| Progesterone Queen
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My Mood: Points: 93,298.84 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 93,298.84 | I'm posting this thread because Progesterone is such an important hormone to know about in preventing miscarriage. It's so unfair, how uninformed doctors choose to be, and it's sometimes our job to inform ourselves.
I speak from experience, I trusted my doctor when he said my progesterone level was "good enough" at 10 (even though I had read a 100 sites that said differently) I trusted him, and lost my baby because of it- a year ago yesterday....
It is my hope, that one person learns what I've learned- without having to experience another loss. I hope this information helps you, the way it's helped me, and saved the life of the baby I now carry!
Goodluck & God Bless!
Bug First off what is progesterone? What does it do, and why is it important for pregnancy? Quote:
Progesterone is found in relatively low levels for the first part of a woman's menstrual cycle. It is produced by cells within the ovaries called "granulosa cells" which surround the tiny follicles that will mature to become ovulated eggs.
After ovulation, the "yellow body" (corpus luteum) that released the mature egg into the fallopian tube begins to secrete high levels of progesterone from the granulosa cells within it. This hormone stimulates the growth of rich blood vessels that supply the uterus lining (endometrium). It also causes the expansion of tiny glands in the endometrium that produce a fluid (uterine fluid) that can be used to nourish sperms and embryos that find their way into the uterus. These tiny glands are created by the estrogen hormone and the progesterone takes over the job of making them mature into "feeding structures".
The production of progesterone will normally drop away after about 10 days beyond ovulation. It is this sudden reduction in the hormone that will prompt the menstruation period to begin due to the reduced oxygen supply from the blood vessels that were previously encouraged to grow by the progesterone hormone.
If however, the released egg is fertilized and manages to embed itself into the uterine wall, then the hormone b-HCG is released from the developing placenta, which has the effect of telling the "yellow body" to continue to produce both progesterone and estrogen. This in turn prevents the start of the menstrual cycle and stops further eggs from being released.
The ovaries continue to produce progesterone (and estrogen) during the first 8 to 9 weeks until the placenta begins to reduce the amount of b-HCG secreted, which is a signal to the "yellow body" that it is capable of producing these hormones for itself and requires less help.
| What is the average range for progesterone values in pregnancy? Quote: |
Normal progesterone levels, in pregnancy, are between 15-96.
| What does progesterone do in pregnancy? What side effects does it have? Quote:
During the pregnancy, the progesterone is needed in the following ways, (mostly in conjunction with estrogen):
*Makes the endometrium develop and secrete fluids after being primed by estrogen
* Maintains the functions of the placenta and fights off unwanted cells near the womb that could cause damage to the placenta or fetus.
*Keeps the endometrium in a thickened condition
*Stops the uterus making spontaneous movements
*Stimulates the growth of breast tissue
*Prevents lactation until after the birth (with estrogen)
*Strengthens_ the mucus plug covering the cervix to prevent infection.
*Strengthens the pelvic walls in preparation for labour.
*Stops the uterus from contracting (thus keeping the baby where it is)
The effects on a woman due to raised levels of progesterone can include any or all of the following:
* Constipation
* Heartburn
* Runny and irritable nose
* Eyesight problems (blurring or headaches)
* Increased kidney infection risk.
| Here are the facts: Quote: |
It is estimated that 25 percent of all pregnancies will miscarry, half of them before the eighth week. If a woman suffers three or more miscarriages in succession, the problem is termed "habitual" abortion. Only 15 percent of them can be traced to a specific maternal organic disease. The chief cause of early loss of pregnancy is now thought to be luteal phase failure, in which the ovarian production of progesterone fails to increase sufficiently during the first several weeks after fertilization.
| What are the minimum levels for progesterone in pregnancy?
In a study of 192 women who became pregnant after ovulatory stimulation without IUI the results showed, and I quote: Quote: |
The mean midluteal progesterone level for pregnancy cycles resulting in full term singleton deliveries was 25.85 ng/mL. The lowest level in this group was 10.83 ng/mL
| **Please take note here that the lowest progesterone level that carried to term was 10.83** That is important information for when your doctor says your progesterone is "good enough."
The results for healthy multiples are, and I quote: Quote: |
The mean midluteal progesterone level for pregnancy cycles resulting in full term multiple delivery was 31.49 ng/mL, ranging from 13.62
| If your on supps- Are the blood results still accurate?
Check out this quoted article below- you can read about the different types of supps. Crinone is the only one mentioned that is said to have a minimal impact on serum progesterone levels. Quote: |
Originally Posted by missing article Types of Progesterone:
Synthetic Progesterone (Provera)
Synthetic progesterone, which can be administered orally or via injection, is most commonly used to trigger menstruation. Because of its chemical makeup, it is less likely to cause some of the undesirable size effects of natural progesterone, such as sleepiness or dizziness. Unlike natural progesterone however, synthetic progesterone is generally *not* considered safe to use during pregnancy, which should be ruled out prior to its use.
The remaining types of progesterone, described below, are all natural forms. Oral Progesterone
Natural oral progesterone, such as Prometrium pills, is used primarily as a supplement in the luteal phase for patients undergoing natural or IUI cycles. The primary advantage of oral progesterone is its convenience; patients do have not have to learn to give themselves injections or deal with the discharge that may occur with vaginal application. Despite its appeal, however, oral progesterone has several disadvantages. Most seriously, at least one study suggests that it may be associated with lower success rates than some other forms of progesterone; it has been hypothesized that oral progesterone may be more effective at raising serum progesterone levels than at raising the level of progesterone within the uterine lining itself, which is where its true effect occurs. Additionally, oral progesterone is metabolized by the liver, and the byproducts may cause side effects such as dizziness or sleepiness.
Recently, some doctors have begun to have patients administer these same progesterone pills vaginally. Few data are yet available on the efficacy of this approach. Progesterone Suppositories
Progesterone suppositories are compounded by individual pharmacists and consist of natural progesterone suspended in a base similar to cocoa butter. Upon insertion, the warmth of the body causes the suppository to melt and release the progesterone. Since suppositories are vaginally administered, the liver does not produce the high number of side effect-causing metabolites that can occur with natural progesterones taken orally. The vaginal administration also allows the progesterone to be targeted more specifically to the uterine area. Many women, however, find the discharge associated with suppositories to be overly messy or uncomfortable and there is some question as to how long the progesterone is effective after insertion. Additionally, it can be difficult to find a pharmacy that will compound the suppositories, and the individualized process may cause a lower level of dosing accuracy and quality control. Finally, some women may be sensitive to the suspending substance. Bioadhesive Gel (Crinone)
Crinone gel is also applied vaginally. In contrast to suppositories, however, the progesterone is suspended in a bioadhesive gel (sold without progesterone under the brand name Replens) and is packaged in a tampon-like applicator. Crinone gel is highly efficient at the uterine level; in fact, the progesterone stays so concentrated in the uterus that Crinone often has minimal impact on serum progesterone levels. Crinone is frequently used as a progesterone supplement in IUI and IVF cycles.
This uterine level impact is one of the primary advantages of Crinone, as is the fact that many patients only need to apply it once a day. For many women, Crinone is far better at delaying premature onset of menstruation than are suppositories or oral progesterone. Some women do, however, find that the suspension gel accumulates in the vagina and may need to be removed every couple of days; additionally, patients occasionally experience vaginal irritation as a result of the build-up. Injectible Progesterone
Injectible progesterone consists of progesterone suspended in an oil, commonly sesame or peanut. Used most frequently in IVF cycles, progesterone in oil is normally injected intramuscularly once a day, most commonly in a dose of one cubic centimeter (cc).
Progesterone in oil is highly effective at the uterine level; many physicians consider it to be the gold standard for progesterone supplementation, particularly in high stakes in vitro fertilization cycles. Additionally, unlike Crinone, progesterone in oil supplementation is also reflected in serum tests, allowing levels to be more easily, albeit indirectly, monitored. The once a day dosing is convenient for patients, and the cost is quite low, often only several dollars a day for a patient taking 1 cc.
For many women, the primary disadvantage of progesterone in oil is the manner in which it is administered. In addition to being intramuscular, progesterone injections must be performed using a 20 or 22 gauge needle to accommodate the relatively high viscosity of the oily solution. This gauge is larger than that used for most other infertility medications, and patients often find the change intimidating. Additionally, like progesterone suppositories, progesterone in oil normally has to be compounded by a specialty pharmacy or mail ordered. Finally, some women may be allergic to the oil in which the progesterone is most commonly suspended. What about Progesterone Creams?
In contrast to the above products, progesterone creams are available over the counter. These products deliver a small amount of supplemental progesterone, and absorption may vary significantly from person to person. These creams may provide a bit of “insuranceú to a woman with a fairly normal cycle, but the dosages are not high enough to treat significant hormonal issues. When you are trying to conceive, it is always a good idea to consult a knowledgeable professional about the use of any drug that might affect fertility. What is the Best Form?
As is often the case, there is no one single treatment that is best for all women. Although oral progesterone may be sufficient for some women, Crinone and progesterone in oil do appear to be the most effective at the uterine level. The issue of whether either of these two supplementation forms is superior to the other remains unresolved. Some preliminary research suggests that progesterone in oil is superior at preventing bleeding in pregnancy, but that it may also delay bleeding in some cases where genetically abnormal pregnancies ultimately result in blighted ova. Definitive research is, however, yet to be done. | What if your doctor won't put you on progesterone? Try natrual progesterone cream- it's a start! Here is the dosage to maintain a pregnancy:
First start with 20mg of progesterone cream twice a day [40mg total per day] for the first month of pregnancy.
Then increase to 20mg three times a day [60mg total per day] in the second month.
After the third month, the placenta starts making more and more progesterone, reaching 300 to 350 mg per day during the third trimester of the pregnancy. You can continue with progesterone support at 20 mg twice a day until a week or so before the baby's due date. What about pre-term labor? Here are the details, on that, from a study that Bunnyscott posted (thanks btw!) about how progesterone can reduce the chance of pre-term labor:
Prevention of Recurrent Preterm Delivery by 17 Alpha-Hydroxyprogesterone Caproate
Background Women who have had a spontaneous pre-term delivery are at greatly increased risk for pre-term delivery in subsequent pregnancies. The results of several small trials have suggested that 17 alpha-hydroxyprogesterone caproate (17P) may reduce the risk of pre-term delivery.
Methods We conducted a double-blind, placebo-controlled trial involving pregnant women with a documented history of spontaneous pre-term delivery. Women were enrolled at 19 clinical centers at 16 to 20 weeks of gestation and randomly assigned by a central data center, in a 2:1 ratio, to receive either weekly injections of 250 mg of 17P or weekly injections of an inert oil placebo; injections were continued until delivery or to 36 weeks of gestation. The primary outcome was pre-term delivery before 37 weeks of gestation. Analysis was performed according to the intention-to-treat principle.
Results Base-line characteristics of the 310 women in the progesterone group and the 153 women in the placebo group were similar. Treatment with 17P significantly reduced the risk of delivery at less than 37 weeks of gestation (incidence, 36.3 percent in the progesterone group vs. 54.9 percent in the placebo group; relative risk, 0.66 [95 percent confidence interval, 0.54 to 0.81]), delivery at less than 35 weeks of gestation (incidence, 20.6 percent vs. 30.7 percent; relative risk, 0.67 [95 percent confidence interval, 0.48 to 0.93]), and delivery at less than 32 weeks of gestation (11.4 percent vs. 19.6 percent; relative risk, 0.58 [95 percent confidence interval, 0.37 to 0.91]). Infants of women treated with 17P had significantly lower rates of necrotizing enterocolitis, intraventricular hemorrhage, and need for supplemental oxygen.
Conclusions Weekly injections of 17P resulted in a substantial reduction in the rate of recurrent pre-term delivery among women who were at particularly high risk for pre-term delivery and reduced the likelihood of several complications in their infants. What is the difference between progesterone and progestogens (synthetic progesterones)? Quote:
Progesterone has the identical chemical structure to the substance made in a woman's body by the ovarian corpus luteum (gland formed after an egg is ovulated each month). Actually the progesterone is now synthetically made but it behaves as best we know, just like the body's natural progesterone once it is absorbed into the blood stream. This is to be distinguished from synthetic progesterone-like chemicals called progestogens which bind to the body's progesterone receptors and function for the most part, just like progesterone. Because they are chemically different than natural progesterone, they sometimes have side effects or actions that are different than progesterone.
Progestogens were originally developed because they were capable of being absorbed into the blood when ingested in pill form, whereas progesterone itself was not orally absorbed. Recently, however, it has been found that micronization of progesterone (making very tiny crystals of the progesterone) enhances absorption from the gastrointestinal tract. Thus micronized progesterone is now sometimes being used for menopausal hormone replacement therapy instead of progestogens. Birth control pills still have progestogens as the active progesterone-like component.
In contrast to some of the progestogens such as medroxyprogesterone acetate (Provera®, Cycrin®) natural progesterone does not seem to suppress good cholesterol (HDL), has no effect on blood pressure or mood, and shows less of a tendency to cause increased male-hormone-like effects such as facial hair growth. Each synthetic progestogen may have a somewhat different side-effect profile so it is not easy to generalize.
| Quote: Signs Of Low Progesterone And Estrogen Excess Progesterone
Swollen breasts
Fibrocystic breasts
Loss of libido
Obesity
Depression
Low thyroid
Facial hair
Hot flashes
Night sweats
Vaginal dryness
Foggy thinking
Memory lapses
Incontinence
Tearful
Depressed
Sleep disturbances
Heart palpitations
Bone loss
Water retention Deficiency Estrogen (Estradiol) Excess
Craving for sweets
Mood swings (PMS)
Depression
Tender breasts
Water retention, edema (swelling, bloating)
Fatigue, no energy
Nervous
Irritable
Anxious
Fibrocystic breasts, Breast swelling
Uterine fibroids
Weight gain in hips and thighs
Bleeding changes
Heavy or irregular menses
Headaches
Loss of sex drive (libido)
low thyroid - cold hands and feet
| *If you have any progesterone information to add- Please do! *
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