Ok, I have a question about soy isoflavones (sp?)
I did do a search but the first thing I came across was quite a debate...a nasty one too I might add
So, I decided to start a whole new thread. My questions are:
What exactly is soy and what does it do for you?
Which days should you take it?
What are the side effects?
Does anyone know of ANY success rates on it?
Is it safe to use with clomid?
And lastly...please be kind, I'm not here to start an argument...does anyone not recommend soy or have words of caution?
Thanks for all your help ladies...how does it feel to know that I trust your advice better than that of my doctor?
Chancy
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Chancy, you've given us a tall order. Soy is a bit of an unknown. For as much information that there is warning against it, there is as much praising it. Studies debunk studies, and no one can agree.
Hang on... it could become a bit rocky here. LOL.
For those replying, please be courteous. If you are referring to studies and facts, please provide links and references. If you have a personal anecdote about how soy worked for you, feel free to share it.
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...Cultural and clinical studies have consistently linked poor diets to deficiencies and toxicities known to contribute to illness. A plant-based diet high in whole foods that are minimally processed, with a variety of colorful fruits and vegetables, can positively impact hormone balance and possibly prevent cyst formation. Eat vegetables, legumes, nuts, seeds, whole grains and fruits that are free of pesticides, preservatives and additives. Meat and poultry should be minimized or eliminated; however, antibiotic and hormone-free fish may be included once or twice weekly. The best sources include salmon, mackerel, herring and tuna. Consuming protein, carbohydrates and fats at the same time can further improve nutrient absorption and maintain stable blood sugar levels.
Particular attention should be made to increase dietary phytoestrogens (plant compounds). Isoflavones, coumestans and lignans are three of the most important sub-groups of phytoestrogens. These compounds undergo metabolic conversions in the gut that can favorably alter the body’s hormonal activity. High amounts of bio-available isoflavones can be found in soybean products like miso, tempeh and natto. Other sources are chickpeas, lentils, grams and kidney beans.
"Phytoestrogens" is the name given to a family of plant compounds that have both estrogenic and anti-estrogenic properties. Flaxseed, soy, alfalfa are examples of plants containing phytoestrogens.
Research indicates that these plants, and isolated lignans (proteins) from these plants, have many protective effects in the body. Consumption of flaxseed and its lignans increases SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) synthesis, as well as reduce breast tumor formation and growth. SHBG inhibits the action of testosterone. Excessive testosterone contributes to infertility, hirsutism, and acne.
Hundreds of research studies demonstrate that soy foods are safe. Soy has a moderating influence on both estrogen and testosterone.
There is some evidence to suggest that the more the food has been processed to be drug-like, the more likely there could be adverse effects. Therefore, eating soy beans in chile, putting ground flax seed in your smoothie, or having a tofu scramble for breakfast, is preferable to taking capsules of isolated soy proteins.
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Thanks so much Ajani. You said it better than I ever could regarding courtesy. I know that there are many different opinions out there and I realize that some may conflict with others. I did not ask this question to start a debate...I asked it because I needed help.
Thanks again,
Your information is quite interesting.
Chancy
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Just wanted to say I don't think it should be taken with Clomid. It is taken the same as you take Clomid. I have taken it once, but it didn't work for me. There are a few cysters that I know that it seems to make them O. Hopefully, they can be of greater help. I took mine on CD 3-7 and no side effects.
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? about soy isoflavones 
here are some links for the 'against' side:
