Alkalinising

Pale Pink Aura · 01-12-2008, 06:02 AM

My GP is all excited about alkalinising diets at the moment. I've just had a blood analysis done to show how being acidic is affecting my body. Has anyone here heard of this and has done the alkalinising diet? I'm wondering how easy/hard it is and how it would affect PCOS.

KateJames · 01-13-2008, 10:09 AM

Hi Pale Pink Aura,

Yes I am familiar with it and I have the books/cookbooks - PH Miracle by Dr Robert Young - the Dr (Naturopathic) your GP did the live blood analysis/microbiology course with. I also have the water ionizer machine.

Type in Ph Miracle into 'you tube' and you can view some of his videos online about the alkaline lifestyle.

I'm sure the program is great as I've read alot of stories on his blog where people have been cured of many ailments - but it is the most extreme program you will ever find and it takes a very disciplined person to do it. I would love to do it, but even if I could do it, I couldn't imagine trying to make my family eat this way along with me.

Ie. you can't have any eggs, cheese, dairy, yogurt, meat (not even chicken), fish is ok (about twice a month as a treat, LOL), grains, most fruit, coffee/tea, mushrooms ... there is not much you can eat except greens - lots and LOTS of vegetables, avocados, green powdered drinks, legumes, green smoothies for breakfast etc. It is extrmemely extreme

C.O.W.S. is the acronym - chlorella, oils, water & salt - which is the basis of the program.

If you can do vegetarian (without the starchy carbs vegetarians usually rely on) then it may be for you - and I would say to go for it. I would also say "I wish I could do that too"

It would be a great plan for PCOS in that it is low carb and extremely healthy (in an extremist way much like the health ranger if you have heard of him). But I still find it hard to accept, after being told for so long that I must always have protein at each meal for my pcos & IR etc as soon as I read that yogurt, chicken and fish were out, my "I can't do this" alarm bells rang. It was hard enough giving up most carbs!

Kate.

Pale Pink Aura · 01-13-2008, 06:46 PM

Thanks for the reply Kate - yeah it was Dr Young he went to see - he's got piles of his books he is selling to clients. He put me on the easy end of the spectrum - said my blood work wasn't *too* bad, so I'm just having to alkalinise with the stuff in water and only have meat 2 - 3 times a week (and yes, he mentioned the COWS acronym). I 'kinda' started yesterday with a green soup. The rest of the family thought it was okay, but I found it a little unappealing. It was basically raw and very difficult to blend, so it tasted almost crunchy while I was eating it.

I don't know, I'd really like to do it, but it if takes too much to get alkaline (I haven't bought any urine pH strips yet, so I'm not sure exactly where I stand) then I may choke. I was hoping someone could give me a positive result for their pcos to keep my motivation going a little more.

contessa · 01-14-2008, 03:23 AM

alkalinising diet i would love to know more about it. hi I'm tessa i'm ttc #1 and i want to know anything that can help.

KateJames · 01-14-2008, 08:25 AM

Contessa - type in "Dr Young" or "PH Miracle" into you tube and you will find some short videos (and also his TV interviews) by Dr Young which gives a really great insight into it.

Pale Pink Aura - Sorry my post wasn't more positive.

Did your GP mention anything about the diets effect on pcos?

You might like to send an email to Dr Young asking how the diet benefits pcos to give you a bit of reassurance and motivation. If you go to his website and sign up for the newsletter (which comes pretty much daily) you can easily hit the reply button and ask a question. I did this a while back, and was shocked to receive a reply from him the next day. If you find out anything positive about alkanising and pcos, please let us cysters know

Good work for starting already - I wish you every success!

Kate.

NB. I just went to you tube and there are even more videos now. One featured a testimonial by a woman who was Type 1 diabetic for 23 years, taking 20 units of insulin a day. After one month on the PH Miracle, she is now completely cured of diabetes. I've seen other testimonials on his blog from people who are cancer free after following the PH Miracle. There was also a bit in one interview, where Dr Young mentions his theory that there is only one disease - a healthy alkaline body balances itself and allows healing. So, Pale Pink Aura - that is definitely motivating!

Pale Pink Aura · 01-14-2008, 06:16 PM

Landonsmommy - I was a little concerned about the protein too, also they do recommend you have protein, just from vegetable sources (chick peas, soy etc). My doc also said I could have eggs or meat a few times a week, I'd just have to balance it out with more alkaline water/juices to flush out the acidity that day. He said as long as I was checking my urine pH I would be able to cheat a bit. It's only initially trying to balance out a VERY acidic body that you have to be so strict. My diet is already pretty healthy (I'm allergic to wheat and dairy, so it has to be), hence why I didn't need such a strict start.

Kate - I've just hit reply to Dr Robert (I had previously subscribed to his newsletter), so I'll fill you in on what reply I get. I asked specifically about reversing PCOS and hypothyroidism.

KateJames · 01-15-2008, 10:31 AM

Pale Pink Aura - thanks I would love to hear any info, and anything later down the track regarding how you go, or how you find it. It sounds so much more 'doable' the way your GP advises. Did your GP tell you about Coconut Oil for thyroid issues? I have thyroid problems (hashimotos) and it is helping alot. Google "Dr Bruce Fife" if you want to learn about any of the benefits of coconut oil. It is great stuff.

LandonsMommy - They also say you can't sure PCOS - but look at KAT! In the testimonial I mentioned, the woman was taking 20 units of insulin a day for her Type 1 diabetes. Now she takes none, as she no longer needs it. That would be cured wouldn't it? Well, at least she would be considered in some sort of remission (which granted, she may go back to being diabetic and needing insulin if she returned to a typical american diet). I definitely think it's natural to be cautious and highly skeptical of 'miracles' but after reading so much alternative and holistic info, I believe there are many miracles out there. Mainstream medicine just doesn't want to hear about them as there is big business in modern disease (yes, I read too many Dr. Mercola and Health Ranger articles :-)

RE: the protein - that was my main concern too. One of the videos I saw on You Tube last night featured a guy who did Body for Life (Ryan Marcott) who does the PH Miracle. He was also concerned about protein and losing muscle on it, but hasn't looked back since and looks very muscley.

Kate.

lachicarubia · 01-17-2008, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LandonsMommy

Western medicine has it's flaws, and yes holistic therapies are better choices for some. I know we have mixed readers on this site and I would hate for a type I or even type II diabetic to take this diet and not ask a physician/naturalist/professional if it is a good choice for them.

I am not a fan of extreme diets that restrict certain nutrients either, but...

I am sure that those with diabetes check their blood sugar a few times a day to see how much insulin they need to inject. Do you think that someone on this diet will just stop injecting insulin, just because they are on the diet? I am sure if their blood sugar is too high they will keep taking insulin.

Maybe this diet gets rid of what ever has damaged the pancreas, and enables to body to repair the organ so it can start producing insulin once again. You never know... It is OK to be skeptical, but instead of saying that it just can't be, because it is impossible, we should ask more questions... How is this possible? Has their pancreas been repaired and started producing enough insulin once again?

I know this is not PCOS related, but since cancer was brought up, I wanted to point out that there are others who claim to have cured their cancer by making their body more alkaline, and not necessarily by using this particular diet.
One site talks about using the alkaline mineral Cesuim:

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Almost 75 years ago, Otto Warburg was awarded two Nobel prizes for his theories that cancer is caused by impaired cell respiration due to a lack of oxygen at the cellular level. According to Warburg, damaged cell respiration causes fermentation, resulting in hyper-acidity at the cellular level.
In 1984 Keith Brewer, PhD (Physics) translated Warburg's theories into a practical, cost efficient treatment protocol for cancer. Brewer successfully treated 30 patients with various cancers, using Cesium, nature's most alkaline mineral.
The results of Brewer's work -- all 30 survived.
http://www.cancercoverup.com/fighter...um-science.htm

KatCarney · 01-17-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KateJames

LandonsMommy - They also say you can't sure PCOS - but look at KAT! In the testimonial I mentioned, the woman was taking 20 units of insulin a day for her Type 1 diabetes. Now she takes none, as she no longer needs it. That would be cured wouldn't it? Well, at least she would be considered in some sort of remission (which granted, she may go back to being diabetic and needing insulin if she returned to a typical american diet).

You're not referring to me, are you? I've never taken insulin, and never been diagnosed with diabetes.

I don't even consider myself cured...but remission - for sure.

My lifestyle has a very direct impact on the re-emergence of my symptoms.

I have read the PH Miracle. LOVE that book.

Pale Pink Aura · 01-17-2008, 07:14 PM

I agree that trialing this diet isn't the silly thing to do (if you really look at it, it's just a very healthy diet, laden with green veggies, which, if it has its flaws is because it's too strict and most people wouldn't be able to stick with it), the silly thing to do would be to rely on any diet and stop seeing your health professional. I agree, we need to look after our bodies in a combination of ways and this means looking at our diet and dealing with medical professionals, be it naturopathic or western (or whatever). I'm sure that a diabetic wouldn't just stop taking insulin unless their doctor had told them to wean down the doseage first because they were getting too much.

Anyway, this is all pretty much heresay. I'm still looking into it and will see how I can go. I've tried pretty much everything and if I'm still having problems (which I am), I'm still going to keep on looking until I can find the solutions that can keep me stable. PCOS is a syndrome, everyone reacts differently to different meds/supplements/treatments/diets, so all I'm doing is seeing if this can help me.

KateJames · 01-18-2008, 04:51 AM

"You're not referring to me, are you? I've never taken insulin, and never been diagnosed with diabetes. I don't even consider myself cured...but remission - for sure."

Kat - I was referring to you with respect to PCOS only - after reading about your story, which said "one last note...miraculously, Kat no longer "suffers" from PCOS. While it is considered incurable, doctors suspect that her attention to her health and wellbeing, caused her body to "reverse" the effects of the condition". (I have this printed for inspiration in my exercise journal for when I feel like slacking off :-)

The insulin/diabetes testimonial I mentioned, was regarding the lady mentioned in my earlier post above. Sorry - I should have hit the return button to add a line break :-)

There seems to be a bit of healthy skepticism in this thread as to whether or not cancer can be cured or Type 1 diabetes patients can ever stop injecting insulin or be cured. These testimonials were posted by Dr Young based on his patients bloodwork and results - according to Dr Young, it is very possible. It wasn't my intention to moot what can be cured or not. I was just trying to post a bit of positive information, for those that might be interested.

I also want to clarify that in no way am I suggesting anyone have unrealistic hopes or follow this plan without the proper care from their GP/Naturopath etc. Both testimonials I mentioned (cancer and diabetes) - were from actual patients who followed the alkaline diet under the guidance of Dr Robert Young. Pale Pink Aura is also being guided by her own GP - and I wish her every success.

Best wishes,

Kate.

Pale Pink Aura · 01-18-2008, 05:12 AM

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Thanks Kate

Sandycat · 01-25-2008, 07:07 PM

If you're looking to alkalinize (word?) your diet, I would also look into marcobiotics.

www.macrobiotics.org

They take the concept of ying/yang (acidic/alkaline) to cure a lot of diseases, including cancer, diabetes, RA, etc.

It's an option if this Alkaline diet is too restrictive.

LaLaRanger · 02-25-2009, 04:36 PM

Hi Everyone,

I know that this thread is a little old, but I'm glad I came across it. I just bought one of Dr. Young's books. It should be here tomorrow. I also purchased some green magma which is a barley grass juice powder which is one of the many green things Dr. Young recommends. I'll be checking my pH with strips and will be putting alkaline drops in my water.

My husband and I have been lacto/ovo vegetarians for almost six months now, and are actually looking forward to the first phase of the diet which is a bit strict, but I'm sure will be a step in the right direction. I don't know what will be the outcome, but I've been feeling for a long time, that I haven't figured out how to heal my body from the inside out.

I would love to hear from anyone who has used Dr. Young's program or who just try to alkanize through supplements.