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Old 01-23-2008, 03:45 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have started taking Diane-35 again so I can have unprotected sex (and fix various PCOS symptoms)....but it makes my normally decently controlled eating disorder start running rampant (excessive eating, excessive exercise). I have taken Diane-35 and kept my eating disorder under control relatively well in the past. However, it is just SOOO much easier when I'm not on Diane. I notice that I start fantasizing about food, and also gain weight easier. I'm always hungry. When I'm not on Diane once in awhile I eat a bit excessively out of a sort of hedonistic desire, but it doesn't really concern me all that much. I don't crave food or barely think about it unless I'm hungry and its time for a meal.

Diane has good effects though, like beautiful, younger looking, perfectly clear skin without any acne at all, my muscles shrink (they are bigger than my liking due to the excess testosterone, therefore i lose weight initially), the hair on my face goes away, and it prevents pregnancy!

I have tried taking Spironolactone but it totally removes my sex drive (to ZERO). It does a good job of keeping away the hair and acne though.

I don't know what to do! I just don't know if I can manage to deal with the eating disorder in order to have Diane's good effects. i have tried a million different alternative medicines, exercise, etc. the only thing i haven't tried is acupuncture, and i'm thinking of going to see a chinese doctor when i have some $$.

Anyone have any ideas or comments?
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Old 01-23-2008, 06:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I hate to say it, but this is an easy one. No eating disorder -- sounds like you have a history or problem with bulimia. Eating disorders can kill you and mess with your system forever. If you understand what your trigger is and you actually understand that you have an eating disorder while it's happening, run screaming from it while you can. I had (have) an eating disorder, and even though I understood what I had and that it was doing me damage, it took me forever to kick it and I have no idea if it's going to stay kicked after the baby's born (mentally, being pregnant gave me a get-out-of-jail-free card, as I have an 'excuse' to both eat well (or even not so well and have a little junk) and gain weight) and I've got to drop baby weight.

However, you may have another option -- try a different pill. You are likely to have different reactions to different pills, and a different pill may not trigger your hunger and still give you good skin and some of the other side effects.

Believe me when I say I know the heartache of the cosmetic and other problems associated with PCOS, but an eating disorder can kill you. If you really don't think that you can keep it under control on Diane, I'd look for some other option.

Good luck. I know this isn't easy.
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I agree with Fleegle - eating disorders are highly dangerous to your health, aside from being just miserable to live with.

I also second her suggestion of trying a different pill, if you haven't already. I used to take Dianette, as Diane is called here in the UK, and liked it a lot, but after a couple of years I wasn't so happy being on a higher dose pill. So, after discussion with my doctor, I changed to Marvelon - don't know what the brand name is in Canada, but it's a slightly lower dose and yet has many of the same anti-androgenic effects as Diane. There are many brands of pill out there.

I suggest you discuss this with your Dr - being honest about the side effects that are bothering you, and try to work out a solution with him/her.

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Anything that can causes your eating disorder to become more prominent IMO is not a good solution.

As the PP have said an eating disorder is nothing to be messed with. I have been bulimic since I was about 15...while I do have times that are better than others. I feel like an alcoholic, in the fact that I know I'll never be "cured".

I wonder sometimes if my PCOS isn't partly from the abuse I put my body through. My teeth, while they look nice, don't have an enamel. I am freezing all the time, and I have a few other problems that stem from my bulimia.

Since I started taking Met, I've been losing weight the healthy way, for the second time only in my life and it feels so good. I haven't even had a bad thought since I started taking it
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Thanks for all your feedback. I'm not bulimic, but a binger-starver-overexerciser. However, this really makes me upset, isolate myself and generally feel terrible. I vaguely explained to my doctor about why I don't like Diane and she didn't seem too concerned...and suggests that I go on more spiro. I don't know. I'm thinking that maybe I should switch to Yasmin, just to see how I feel. I'm not sure if its the estrogen or the cyproterone that causes my cravings. I suppose I'll know pretty quickly which one it is once I switch. I can notice very quickly whether I'm getting cravings or not!
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I wonder sometimes if my PCOS isn't partly from the abuse I put my body through. My teeth, while they look nice, don't have an enamel. I am freezing all the time, and I have a few other problems that stem from my bulimia.


I wonder the same thing too. I cant help but think i caused this myself from straving to binging i guess my body and insulin couldnt handled it. I get cavities all the time Im always freezing I almost pass out everytime I stand my stomach always makes weird noises and my blood sugar rises and falls like crazy. Im dont know what is from PCOS and what is the result of my previous eating disorder.
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i think you should switch your pill. i had similar issues with ortho evra and it made my ED go ballistic, even more than what it normally is which is plenty. once i switched over to yaz, i felt like i had wayyy more control over my eating which got the purging more under control which gives me more energy to do other things like exercise. plus i spend way less on binge food which is a bonus.
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fuschia, that is great to hear. i am going to my doctor to request yasmin tomorrow to see what will happen. i'm hoping it has the same good effects on my skin that diane does.
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fuschia, that is great to hear. i am going to my doctor to request yasmin tomorrow to see what will happen. i'm hoping it has the same good effects on my skin that diane does.
Yasmin worked wonders on my skin! I had tried every antibiotic pill and topical med before going on it and nothing worked. Once I went on yasmin my face stopped breaking out and now i just have some red scaring dots.
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preMed (or anyone else who has experience with this), did you notice any effects on your appetite from taking yasmin?
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In my case, Yasmin brought out the depression and inherent sense of panic worse than any other pill I had been on. That also meant that it brought out my eating disorder, and I simply refused to eat more than the bare minimium for the month I was on it. When I'm panicky I gain control in the only way I can, which is establishing control over what I (don't) put in my mouth.

Everyone's different. Some women swear by Yasmin, but there's a significant subset for whom Yasmin severely and quickly accentuates depression. Be prepared to pay attention to the signs if you try Yasmin.
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No i didnt really notice a change in my appetite but it did make my boobs bigger. And it also made me anxious sometimes. It wasnt that bad overall i guess but i have recently switche dot Yaz i dont know how i feel about it yet
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I know I'm jumping in a little late here, but I just wanted to add...

When I was on Yasmin about six months ago, it did increase my depression somewhat, but it also made it IMPOSSIBLE for me to lose weight. I was working out at least 30-60 minutes almost every day, and eating about 1400 calories, and I lost NOTHING.

Hopefully this won't happen to you... but it made me really want to go back to the mindset of anorexia...
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Hi everyone, just thought I'd add my update. It has been about 1.5 months that I have been on Yasmin now (I'm also taking spironolactone 100mg/day).

So far everything is great! I've lost a lot of the extra weight that I gained on Diane, and my appetite isn't excessive anymore. I can eat healthy meals each day and feel satisfied. Thank goodness. My skin isn't quite as nice as it was on Diane, but it's pretty much clear. Diane seemed to do something to my skin other than protecting against acne - it was so soft, smooth and glowing. Oh well, I'm pretty happy with not breaking out and not binge eating!
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I'm so glad things are working out for you!
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