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Old 10-30-2009, 03:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey, can you guys look at my bbt chart? this month and last cycle... temps are all over the place BUT they are mostly in the 96 range which is much lower then it used to be when i was TTC about 2 years ago... My thyroid has been tested and it has come back normal... My TSH was 1.21...
I have many symptoms including hairloss... I used to be fatigued but since starting b vitamins and upping my D3 (was deficient in that) I am feeling much better...

If someone could please look at my chart and tell me what I need to ask of an endo... what to test, etc.. i would greatly appreciate it.
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OH, and has anyone taken iodine to help? kelp?
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If your thyroid test is coming back in the normal range, then no. You aren't hypothyroid.
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I agree. There are some that claim you can have a normal thyroid level & still be hypo but I've never met anyone in person that has had that happen. Hair loss could be a side effect of PCOS. Being hypothyroid has nothing to do w/ charting.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Exclamation You could actually be hypothyroid or have adrenal issues...

Hi Narcissa,

Two quick points here -- it's possible that you may be hypothyroid even with your TSH at its current level; and, it's possible that your problem may be related more to your adrenal glands than to your thyroid, based on your temperature chart.

First, the adrenals -- your temps are all over the chart, which typically indicates that you have low functioning adrenals. I've pasted an excerpt from a very helpful site called "Stop the Thyroid Maddness." I can't yet post links here, so just go to www dot stop the thryoid madness dot com slash temperature slash.
But what if you are seeing your temperature all over the map, such as one temp one day, and a temp one-half to two degrees lower at the exact same time the next day?? That could be a sign that you have low functioning adrenals, a common condition with hypothyroid patients, which means you aren’t producing enough cortisol. And for some folks, it takes supplementing with low-dose Hydrocortisone or other adrenal support products to bring that stability in the temperature back.
Dr. Rind has an excellent temperature graph you can use to understand temps. Google drrind metabolic temperature graph.
Now, about the hypothyroid question....

In spite of what most docs and sources may tell you, it's possible for you to be hypothyroid or have thyroid issues even when your TSH falls in the "normal" range. In 2001, the American Academy of Clinical Endocrinologists (AACE) changed the top limit of its long-standing acceptable TSH range to 3.0, saying anything above that should be considered suspect. According to my endocrinologist, the normal range for a healthy young adult is between 1.8 and 2.0 - you'll see this clearly indicated on the chart at thyroid today dot com slash ttlibrary slash current slash aace%newsletter .pdf . Notice the highest bar is around 1.0? (If the link is disabled, look for www dot thyroid today dot com, and search for TSH range newsletter. Hopefully that will take you there.

There are also other lab values besides TSH that should be measured to determine if you have hypothyroidism. There's a good chart at thyroid dot about dot com slash cs slash newsinfo slash l slash bltest_values dot htm.

Another important thing to realize is that many of the labs, including LabCorp and Quest, have not changed the ranges in their computers. THis means that even if your TSH falls outside of the new normal range, the lab report may not flag you as being out of range. Doctors typically look for these flags rather than looking at numbers, so many hypothyroid patients go untreated.

So, bottom line -- you could in fact be hypothyroid in spite of your current lab range; you should get your adrenals tested using a 24-hour saliva swab test. You can find labs where you can get this tested without a doctor's order on the stop the thyroid maddness website -simply add slash adrenal-info slash to the end of the STTM website url.

I really hope this is helpful to you. I struggled with PCOS for more than a decade before getting diagnosed, and only was diagnosed as hypothyroid in March, though I had symptoms and "normal" test results for several years. Now that the thyroid issues are being treated, my testosterone and other hormone levels are NORMAL without me taking any PCOS meds!

Best of luck to you....

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Lisa:

Thank you.. I am actually in the middle of a book by Dr. Scott Isaacs and he touches upon this... I really think I need my cortisol as well as my T3 and T4 (free and bound) levels tested. My TSH is normal at 1.21 but thats not looking at the whole picture im discovering through research. Starting in January I will be seeing docs until I find one that is willing to test me for everything... I cant wait! Hopefully I can get a better picture of what is goign on with me... My body seems to be pretty resistant to metformin, etc.. so I think something else is going on as well.
Thanks for all the info! I will be looking into those websites as soon as i can
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I had symptoms of hypothyroid years before I was actually diagnosed w/ it. My tests have came back in the "normal" range for the last few years and was not until this year did it come back w/ hypothyroid. So from personal experience, I think you can have symptoms of it even before you get outside the normal range. I would keep having your levels tested yearly.
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I see that you are gluten intolerant, which is EXTREMELY common to have that and hypothyroidism. You need your TSH, Free T3, Free T4, and both antibodies tested to have a better picture.

I am one that was euthyroid. Once I convinced my endo to do those tests, my antibodies came back sky high and voila! I have Hashimotos Hypothyroidism.
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