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Old 12-07-2007, 12:30 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 12-09-2007, 12:04 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Hi All,

I'm new to these board, but I have done a ton of reading and see a specialist in NYC, one of the best around. His site is www.hormonehelpny.com

I hear everyones dilemas with dieting and many of the books contradict themselces. I read a book (the second link) that says to follow a low glycemic index diet and then I read another book (the first link) that says to eat a loyw glycemic LOAD diet. Problem is a lot of these food contradict each other.

For example, the low load diet prohibits virtually ALL breads and rice, even wheat because the author says something to the effect that eating any of it (even wheat) is like eating a plate of sugar. The other doctor says you should eat slow digesting carbs with almost every meal. Two totally different viewpoints.

One example is carrots. They have a high glycemic index rating, but a low glycemic load rating! The author of the low gylcemic load diet says he has never known anyone to get fat eating carrots! The low G-LOAD diet is much stricter, but I am doing a little of both now. I had great success last year losing 45 pounds eating low carb, low sugar. I gained about 25 pounds back though after falling off the wagon.

I am back on it and limiting my carb intake to a piece of whole wheat or whole sprouted bread or a little bit of whole wheat pasta. Not eating much more than veggies (vegatable soup), fruit salads with a little honey, cashews, tuna fish and some stuff like that. I also switched to all organic and started doing a lot of shopping online at edensoy.com and other similar sites. Many of these foods are gluten-free, sugar-free, wheat-free, etc. It's rather expensive, but figure in the long run will be much cheaper than doctors bills if I remain overweight. The dieting is not fun, but I have to do it at least until I reach my goal weight of 150 and those sites with some of the pre-made foods make it a little easier. My weight loss should take me at least 7-10 months, so please email me if you want to talk about your success!

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Old 12-10-2007, 02:51 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Is there much difference in the first IR Diet (by Cheryle Hart) book and the revised version that just came out? I want to but it but i'm not sure if it matters which one i get
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Old 01-14-2008, 03:08 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Thank you for the helpful information. I have recently been diagnosed and am trying to gather as much information as I can so that I can learn how to manage this and hopefully change how it is effecting my life.
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Old 01-15-2008, 11:21 AM   #65 (permalink)
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I originally posted this thread a few weeks back and wanted to give you an update. December, being a holiday month was a little hard for a "diet" but I managed and now it is the 2nd week of January and I have lost about 10 pounds, so the weight is coming off at a good rate - not too fast, not too slow. There are days I go up and down, but I've been losing a little every week.
Be careful with the glycemic index cookbooks and what not. They will tell you it's ok to eat whole grain pastas and bread - and from my experience it is - but about half of what the recommend. When I eat meat sauce for example, I use about 1/4 cup of pasta and chop it up into little pieces in my sauce and cover with parm cheese. It's almost like a chili and I recommend it!
I take supplements also... including chromium GTF, vitamin C, E, D, magnesium, selenium and flax oil. Flax seeds, oils, anything flax is SO good for us with pcos. I also take Align (to keep my digestion regular), Benifiber powder (you can't taste it, it gives you added fiber) 1 tsp cinnamon each day usually in a shake.
I thought I'd share with everyone what some of my usual menu items are. Mostly all organic, but if organic is too expensive just wash your food very well. Trick is stay away from carbs and SUGAR. Try to keep your "Net" carbs (carbs minus amount of fiber) around 30 - 40 carbs per day. Also, go to the site netrition.com - tofuyan wraps and pitas are AMAZING and LOW LOW carb. Great for us.. plus some yummy treats like sugar-free nutella. Stay away from too many chemicals. It's better you make an organic grilled chicken wrap then use chemical filled cold cuts. I really hope this helps some people as I've been

Breaksfast Choices (I ALWAYS eat fruit with breakfast):
- Low carb, NO sugar vanilla protien shake (I add strawberries - don't add bananas)
- 1/2 grapefruit, 1 piece toasted whole wheat bread w/jelly or a little cream cheese
- Pear or Apple & 1/2 tofuyan wrap with a tablespoon of chunky peanut butter & teaspoon sugar free twist nutella (netrition.com)

Lunch Choices:
- Large salad of lettuce and grape tomatos w/tuna on top & Ken's Steakhouse red wine & olive oil dressing, apple, water
- Tofuyan low carb pita or wrap stuffed with my favorite fillings - grilled chicken, roasted peppers & lettuce or turkey and cheese (use mustard when you can, but a little mayonaisse won't hurt), a small salad
- If I go out to lunch to Friday's for example I have a cup of brocolli cheese soup and side salad or a side salad with the Zen chicken potstickers (low fat, low carb)

Snacks (2 per day):
Strawberries
Olives
Unsweetened apple sauce with added cinnamon
Sugar free snacks ordered online (netrition.com)

Dinner Choices:
- Baked chicken or salmon, brocolli with vinegar & garlic, "fake" mashed potatos (low carb - available on netitrition.com)
- Chili with red kidney beans and ground turkey
- Beef stew, no potatoes, made light, almost like a soup (avoid too much flour or thickening agent
- Once in a while - domino's thin crust pizza, only a piece or 2 - make a large salad,so you dont overeat the pizza
- Friday's Side salad, soup and key west shrimp skewers (low carb menu)
- Stuffed green peppers, but use brown or basmati rice (use 1/2 the rice you'd usually use and add more meat)

Those are some ideas. I'll be honest, it's not EASY at first - I'm someone who LOVES bread, but it's necessary. Bread is not good for us, as unfair as it is, our body doesn't process it the same as "normal" peoples' bodies. Some other pointers - heinz makes low carb ketchup and it tastes the same as regular (condiments can really hurt you if you don't pay attention to carbs. I eat a lot of seafood which seems expensive, but you can go into your grocers freezer and find bags of tilapia or salmon for abut $8.00 and that will give you 1, 2 or 3 dinners depending on how many are eating. There's fun food too like crab legs & lobster for special occasions. I find eating too much meat doesn't allow me to digest as well. Once you're eating enough fiber and taking a fiber supplement like Benefiber you will see the weight start coming off. Just drink enough water! I'm not a fan of diet drinks, but I guess those are okay too!

Any questions email me: kr0722@aol.com
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Old 01-23-2008, 01:19 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Okay Ladies! I am so glad to have this forum, I am on the IR diet and slowly losing the wieght, I have some news though! Dr Cheryle HArt, the author of the IR diet has written a second book called the feel good diet, I guess with linking your foods you lower the excretion of seratonin from your brain and you can get depressed. (which we are already at risk for!) so I really would advise you all if you are starting the IR diet to go check out her newer book to see more she has to say. I am lucky enough to be able to go to a free seminar in my own town, here in Spokane.

The main difference is that she advises to have two insulin spiking snacks two and a half hours away from your linked meals to que your seritonin ( feel good hormone) the snack should only by one single serving so like one half of a cookie, one half orange, etc. Definatly read the book, for a clearer explanation but I did the IR diet and now the feel good diet and I totally feel the difference, even just getting excited about eatting half a cookie and not having to follow it up with a piece of meat can get you happy! lol.

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Old 05-09-2008, 11:43 PM   #67 (permalink)
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THANK YOU! I am going to look at each one and see what one is best for me!!
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Oh my gosh, thanks for this post!
Everything I read here answers some huge questions!!
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Old 06-27-2008, 07:12 PM   #69 (permalink)
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I have the first book. I tried the diet for one week. It is a very good book.
I don't know why it is not famous. I even emailed the people of IR diet book , but they never reply. I think we need more support and some kind of customer service.

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I recently recieved this book but haven't started the diet yet. I guess I need to light a fire under myself. The information is very good and easy to follow, just apply it to your everyday life. Good luck everyone.
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