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Old 10-12-2007, 03:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Flutimide and metformin

Im probably posting this in the wrong section but I was wondering if anyone who is currently posting on this board is on this combo of meds. I know Allison who posted not long ago in on this. I was just wondering if there are anymore experiences with these two drugs.

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Old 10-15-2007, 02:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Studies showed that flutamide + metformin had good androgen results, but you know they also make PCOSrs ovulate and flutamide can cause birth defects. Studies with flutamide+met+yasmin showed similar weight loss, testosterone lower, less face hair, change in shape to more feminine less apple.
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I think that this is one of the studies I shared with my Endocrinologist:
flutamide and metformin administered alone or in combination in dieting obese women with polycystic ovary syndrome.
Gambineri A, Pelusi C, Genghini S, Morselli-Labate AM, Cacciari M, Pagotto U, Pasquali R.
Division of Endocrinology, Department of Internal Medicine, S. Orsola-Malpighi Hospital, University of Bologna, Italy.
BACKGROUND: Hyperandrogenism, hyperinsulinaemia and obesity play a key and coordinating roles in the pathogenesis of polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS), contributing in different ways to the clinical expression of the syndrome. Weight loss is beneficial, but the additional administration of insulin-lowering drugs, such as metformin, and antiandrogens may produce further benefits, due to their different spectrum of action. The effects of long-term metformin and flutamide, an antiandrogen drug, added alone or in combination with a low-calorie diet, on body weight and fat distribution, androgens, metabolic parameters and clinical status in obese women with PCOS were investigated. METHODS: Forty obese women with PCOS were enrolled in the study. After a 1-month diet, according to single-blind design, the patients were allocated to treatment with placebo, metformin (850 mg/orally, twice daily), flutamide (250 mg/orally, twice daily) or metformin (850 mg/orally, twice daily) + flutamide (250 mg/orally, twice daily) for the following 6 months, while continuing hypocaloric dieting. At baseline and at the end of the study, sex hormone, SHBG, lipid, insulin and insulin sensitivity determinations were evaluated. At the same time, clinical parameters such as anthropometry, total (TAT), visceral (VAT) and subcutaneous (SAT) adipose tissue, hirsutism and menses were also measured. RESULTS: We found that, in obese PCOS women, following a hypocaloric diet the addition of metformin, flutamide or the combined metformin + flutamide treatment had some specific additional favourable effects with respect to the low-calorie diet alone. In particular, flutamide treatment seemed to add a significant effect in decreasing visceral fat, androstenedione, DHEA-S, total and low density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol and in improving hirsutism. Conversely, metformin had significant benefits on the menstrual status. The two drugs showed an additive effect in reducing testosterone concentrations and a synergistic effect in increasing high density lipoprotein (HDL) cholesterol and SHBG levels. Improvement of insulin sensitivity and hyperinsulinaemia appeared to depend on hypocaloric diet, without any further significant effect of the pharmacological treatments, either alone or in combination. CONCLUSIONS: We conclude that, in obese PCOS women, following a hypocaloric diet the addition of metformin, flutamide or the combined metformin + flutamide treatment appears to have a more favourable outcome on body fat distribution, androgens, lipids, hirsutism and menses. However, our data emphasize the dominant role of hypocaloric dieting in improving insulin resistance and hyperinsulinaemia. Therefore, this study provides a rationale for specifically targeting different therapeutical options for PCOS according to the required outcomes.
PMID: 14725687 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
SOURCE: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en..._uids=14725687
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Yeah, that's the study. They did one right along with that that added Yasmin for the gals that were sexually active, because of the flutamide & birth defects. Of course, if you are absolutely SURE you will not get pg (like 100% abstinent, partner snipped, or IUD) you can do flut+met alone.
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