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Old 03-04-2005, 11:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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We got Artie's new.....
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It has his new name (and now legal name) and OUR names as his PARENTS!!! Y'know where it says mothers name on the birth certificate? It is MY name there! On the father line is Max's name!!! I am so happy. I am beyond happy. I am truly elated.

Who would have thought something as simple as a birth certificate would make me so happy I would cry?
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Old 03-04-2005, 11:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That's very exciting!

We're waiting on Em's too!

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Old 03-05-2005, 10:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That's awesome!!! Congratulations Mommy!!!!
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Congrats

We finally got peyton's birth certificate about a week ago.

did you get a wall hanging one and a wallet one?

our hanging certificate has darcy and I as parents but the wallet one doesn't say anything about parents.

Congrats again.
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Old 03-10-2005, 04:33 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Now please, NO ONE lash out on me...I'm just asking a curious question, not trying to bring you all down. LOL

You are getting your names put on a birth certificate, being listed AS the child's biological parents, when you have adopted them.

Is this what I'm understanding?

How can that be done, as that is falsifying birth records.

Can someone fill me in, I'm just very curious.

Like I said, curiosity, not trying to rain on your parade. Congrats to you for getting your BC.
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Old 03-10-2005, 07:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
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It's not falsification. I've heard from pleanty of adopted people whos birth certificates have their adopted parents names on them. From what I understand this is legal and common practice. Since legally they are their kids now, legally the birth certificate wouldn't have a brith paren'ts name, but adoptive parent's names.
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Well, I guess from my "black and white" historical background, it's difficult to view this as anything but falsification, even if it's legal.

I have been a genealogist (one who studies family history) for over 20 years (yes I'm only fixing to be 31...I have helped my mom since I was a very little girl), and from what I understood from birth certificates, is that they HAD to list the biological mom and dad, and if unknown, it had to say unknown (in the case of adoptions or the mother not knowing who the father of the baby was).

Of course, thinking of historical significance, I feel it would be much better to have an "amended" birth certificate, but still some way to archive the original document, even if it were to eventually get sealed in the records of a closed adoption.

50 years from now, someone trying to find their family roots is going to have an awfully hard time when the adopted child's parents are listed as their bio parents.

Do you know if these birth certificates are amended copies of the original, or does the original get wiped off the record?

This is all very curious to me, again, from a historical standpoint.

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Well, I guess from my "black and white" historical background, it's difficult to view this as anything but falsification, even if it's legal.

I have been a genealogist (one who studies family history) for over 20 years (yes I'm only fixing to be 31...I have helped my mom since I was a very little girl), and from what I understood from birth certificates, is that they HAD to list the biological mom and dad, and if unknown, it had to say unknown (in the case of adoptions or the mother not knowing who the father of the baby was).

Of course, thinking of historical significance, I feel it would be much better to have an "amended" birth certificate, but still some way to archive the original document, even if it were to eventually get sealed in the records of a closed adoption.

50 years from now, someone trying to find their family roots is going to have an awfully hard time when the adopted child's parents are listed as their bio parents.

Do you know if these birth certificates are amended copies of the original, or does the original get wiped off the record?

This is all very curious to me, again, from a historical standpoint.

Thanks!
There are cases of many birth mothers who in no way ever want anyone to know they had a child. In cases like this the birth mother's wishes to be anonomous trumps the wishes of the geneology seeker. I have people in my family who we do not know who the birth parents are. We still list them in the geneology and family trees. When asking about one specific relative I was told to drop it and that it was no one's business of his lineage. He is listed as the 2 people who raised him (dead for over 100 years) wished him to be listed, as their son. There are others in my family like this, and they always listed as the descendant of the people who raised them. I doubt this is a new thing, and has probably been going on for generations, and rightly so.
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Right, I understand, but you would think the birth certificate would say "name withheld" or "anonymous".

This is my whole curiousity. Does the new birth certificate replace the old one, and the old one is destroyed, or is it amended to show the adoptive parents on the BC and there still be a "protected" BC on file.
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Right, I understand, but you would think the birth certificate would say "name withheld" or "anonymous".

This is my whole curiousity. Does the new birth certificate replace the old one, and the old one is destroyed, or is it amended to show the adoptive parents on the BC and there still be a "protected" BC on file.
Those questions might be better answered on a geneology site, or an adoption law site instead of a joyous thread about this family's great news. You are approaching it from a geneology seeker's view, and I know how we can get with such research, sometimes we don't see the actual people because we are too focused on their stats.
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Those questions might be better answered on a geneology site, or an adoption law site instead of a joyous thread about this family's great news. You are approaching it from a geneology seeker's view, and I know how we can get with such research, sometimes we don't see the actual people because we are too focused on their stats.
This is, IMO, the most appropriate discussion to ask this question because the OP and some others had actually been through this.

Surely the people who authorized the changes on the Birth Certificate explained to the OP and the others how it could be done legally, and that's what I wanted to know.

Not raining on the OP's parade, I made that quite clear in the first post. I wish the OP or some of the others who have had this done could explain how it can be done, rather than you and me hashing out suppositions. LOL

But ty for trying to help.
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