Blakesmomma

I know some others had posted about problems with their hands. I went and had the nerve test for carpal tunnel and for diabetes. I was okay - no problems with either.

What have others found out about their hands?

I have problems at night mainly. My hands tingle and fall asleep. They are not the arm that I am laying on either.

I am wondering if the loss of Vitamin B could be causing some of the problems? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

TIA

Tori

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penguinlover

I had that exact problems a few months ago. I went to the doctor and they couldn't tell me what it was exactly. I would find my hands and sometimes my arms falling asleep at night just about every night.

Then it suddenly stopped. I don't have that problem anymore.

I'm not sure if it was the change in work load that did it or not. Stress level? I don't know. Probably will never know.

tiggerlily5278

poor blood circulation? high blood pressure/blocked arteries?

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Shelleyc

Have you been tesyed for hypothyroidism? I had that problem until my thyroid disorder was discovered.

Blakesmomma

I've had my thyroid checked and it was okay. I am currently taking zocor for cholesterol and met and avandia for insulin resistance. I do not have high blood pressure - in fact mine has always been really low.

Thanks for you thoughts....

Tori

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ABumpyGal

My mother has the same problem you do Tori, well hers started that way. Her hands would fall asleep at night while she slept, and like you she didn't remember lying on them or otherwise impeding their circulation.

You know from our last conversation on your last thread that my nerves are a mess, but they have been getting worse for me lately, too. My problem seems to be the cold. If my hands get cold they just can't seem to recover and stay numb the rest of the day or night, or go off and on. My mom has similar problems with the cold. This recent cold snap has been killing us!

B-vitamins couldn't hurt to try, that's for sure! In fact, if you aren't already taking a B complex, which I assume you aren't, you may want to. That's one vitamin pill I won't miss come hell or high water twice daily! For me it's brought me so much usable, as opposed to nervous, energy that it's worth its weight in gold to me. Plus many people are deficient for many reasons (medications [met, especially!], poor diet or vegetarian diet, bowel disorders, etc.). Helps with my depression, too.

My questions to you are: Could your hands be getting cold at night? Seen that cardiologist yet?

Examine your daily ergonomics also. I've found that a lot of the problems with my left hand are due to my bad habit of leaning my left arm up on its elbow while at the computer. That's how I compressed my ulnar nerve, so that's bad, bad, bad! Tiny little things like that can do it. How do you sit at work? Home? Do you use ergonomic aids at work such as gel keyboard and mouse pads? If you work for a large company (if you work at all, I'm making a big assumption here and I don't usually. Sorry!) they often have "ergonomic counsellors" who can help you out with this to try to reduce workplace injuries. When at rest at home, try keeping soft pillows under the bad arm(s) at least up to the elbow. Become a detective and look for things that you do that put pressure on your hands, wrists, elbows, or shoulders.

Neck problems can cause this type of thing too, but I hope they checked you for that when you went to the doctor. You'd probably feel it too, as necks don't take too kindly to even tiny insults. But if your hand(s) keep it up and no one has checked your neck, particularly if you have a past injury, get it checked out. Ideally have an MRI. That's how they found out I have degenerative disc disease in my cervical spine, and I was 30 at the time! No one would have ever thought to look for that at that age! Past injuries sneak up on ya though.

You can also try sleeping in wrist braces to see if that will help, as sometimes we can curl our wrists in our sleep and not realize it. I had a big problem with this and didn't even know! I can't remember if you said whether or not you had braces, but someone posted some links to some on your last "carpal tunnel" thread. Any good pharmacy, or even Wal-Mart, should have them. At the very least it will keep the stress and strain off of them while you sleep.

If all else fails and you're still miserable you might want to look into a good Chiropractor. I'll admit freely I'm a bit leery of Chiropractors, as some can be a bit witch-doctorish, but not all are and one helped me a great deal with my neck. She couldn't tell me exactly what was wrong, but she did pinpoint the exact location of the problem and work on it.

I hope you find what's wrong Tori Not only is it stressful having something on our body not acting right, but not knowing why can be horribly upsetting

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Blakesmomma

First of all I am on hiatus from work right now. I went through 1 1/2 years of infertility treatments and over 2 years before that trying to get DH's reversal to work. Anyway we decided that I would stay home until DS was in school. I have about 8 - 9 months left of laziness - LOL!

My doctor first off thought it was carpal tunnel and her husband is a neurologist. Of course she sent me to him for the carpal tunnel test and diabetes test. I had x-rays also that showed nothing was wrong.

After the carpal tunnel test it was if the doc was done! It was frustrating. I had problems with by back before and I think it was mainly stress then but it was if she stopped trying to see what was wrong then also. I really like her but it seems like I have to keep after her to find out what is wrong.

I haven't really done anything different that I have noticed. I sit at the computer the same and use it the same... I think?

I don't have any braces for my hands. I suppose I could definitely try that. I was wondering if maybe my hands were getting really cold if that would cause any problems. My problems just started a couple of months ago when it started getting cold her (Illinois).

An Aunt of mine was taking Vioxx and it caused her (they thought) blockages in her heart and her hands were falling asleep.

A little history...my Dad was one of 10 kids. Almost all of them have diabetes and/or heart problems. I was told once that it was a heriditary thing that just went through males but not sure on that. My brother just turned 40 and has never really been overweight had several blockages in heart - one being 99% blocked. It was scary for all of us.

I think I'm calling the doctor again Monday and see if they have any ideas and if I can have a stress test to rule heart problems out.

I'm not really claustrophobic but I don't think I could do a MRI... I'd have to go to the hospital that is about 45 minutes away that has an open-air MRI.

The doctor just recently had me started me taking Vitamin B complex and Vitamin C. I only read about some meds causing depletion of Vitamin B on this forum. I was taking some vitamins that I had read that I thought would help me. I'm taking Vitamin C/D and magnesium combo and it seemed to be helping with my hands but how much can you take? ya know! I don't know if I am low in calcium or not.

When I lay on my back at night it doesn't seem to cause my hands to fall asleep like when I'm laying on my sides. I have been wondering about fibromyalgia and things like that also. Just hope I can get some response from my doctor.

Well I could go on and on....THANKS SO MUCH for your reply!

Tori

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ABumpyGal

Aw, don't think of it that way hon! I know you're just joking, but our culture can be sooo work/career focused that I think we passed the healthy level a while ago and I worry about people internalizing that. Your son is only young once and he will forever appreciate having his mom around when he was growing up!

Sounds like your typical modern doctor to me I think the HMOs have them so overworked and time-pressured that they can't even take the time to stop and try to figure things out with us. It's so frustrating!

Hmmm... that would definitely point to something changing with you, but still try to keep an eye out. I don't mean to be getting in your business and you certainly don't have to answer, but just something to think about, have you gained any weight recently? When I was bigger (I weighed 300 lbs. at 5'4), even the smallest weight changes could throw things all out of whack. In fact, thinking on it, I even had problems when I first started really losing weight, so it could be either way I suppose!

It couldn't hurt to try the braces. If you go to the doctor your insurance should even pay for them, if it covers durable medical goods. They aren't all that pricey though... about $30 ea. for the best ones. They come in handy, too. If your hands or wrists are achey, putting a brace on usually helps that quickly.

I really think we are all onto something with the cold. Just what, I'm not sure, but something! That almost makes me worry that it is a circulatory issue, and that just makes me worry. Do you take fish oil for Omega 3s? I hear that is supposed to be good for your circulatory system as just one of its many benefits. I know my Aunt takes it for the bad circulation in her legs and she says it helps tons. I keep trying to take it, but I can't find a brand I can keep down (sigh). That's another one of those "couldn't hurt" kind of things you could try... and it's good for a TON of things.

Maybe we could all try to make sure to wear our gloves whenever outside. I even have some I can wear inside if I get cold, as I have Fibro and getting cold is a NO NO. They are just cheapie, novelty fingerless winter gloves from Target. I also have gloves I sleep in that are thin cotton/spandex that I put on after I slather on thick hand lotion/body butter. Makes your hands smooth and keeps 'em warm! Once again... couldn't hurt to try.

See, this is where I REALLY worry for you hon... with your family history it would behoove you to get to a cardiologist pronto. You're still young and whatever they found they could most likely fix pretty easily with meds, and that's if they even found anything. If they didn't, that would be one less worry for you (((hugs)))

I think you would feel so much better just knowing. It could really take a load off of your mind.

Stupid ol'me IS claustrophobic and didn't even think about it until it was too late! I was too busy worrying if I'd fit into the tube (I was still really big)! Oh I fit no problem, but I've always had "issues" about being held down and being in tight spaces... duh. They do strap you down and the top of the tube was about an inch and a half away from my nose! They had given me little earplugs to put in before the test, and I was curious why, well then I found out... it started making the most HORRID noises. The worst were the "gunshot" noises. More "issues" for me! And it took about 15 minutes I felt like even more of a strong woman after that than my first bikini wax as a youngin'!

Honey, I don't care if I have to drive to Illinois to carry you the 45 miles on my back to that open MRI, get the open one! I hear those are great. No noise, it's truly open, and you can even have someone sit in the room with you. Walk those 45 miles if you have to. The MRI is a great test, it's worth it. It saved my neck, for example, and that hadn't shown up on literally dozens of x-rays.

Grrrr... doctors! They should be helping us with this, ya know? I told my partner I should be billing my insurance company for all the time I have to spend doing my own "doctoring"!

Have you checked out the "Alternative Remedies", section of this board? The ladies over there are super knowledgeable about these things. I take insane amounts of Vit C personally, because I investigated it thoroughly and found out the only risk to even crazy doses is kidney stones and diarhhea; and these were doses of 10 grams or so! Because it is a water-soluble vitamin, it will not accumulate in your body but will instead be (ahem) eliminated if there is any extra. I take between 2-3 grams of Vit C a day as I figure my body needs it for wound healing at the least (I have Hidradenitis Suppurativa). It seems to help the clarity of my facial skin and I've even recently started putting it on my face topically as I hear this does great things for your skin tone and helps prevent aging/cancer because it is such a good anti-oxidant. So far in just a few days it's made it verrry smooth!
I also take vit D in the form of vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol), as I read that this is the most usable form. Recommended dose I saw was 1000mg, but all I could find was 700mg pills, so that's what I take. I've been reading a lot lately about how we aren't getting enough Vit D and this could be causing cancer. I figure it can't hurt.
My B Complex is weak. It is seriously lacking, but I just double up on the dose. I figure once I learn more I'll take more of the Bs that address certain problems I have and balance it out with a good B complex. But even my weak B Complex has helped me out a lot, and I mean a lot with energy and just a feeling of wellbeing in general.
Sadly I'm not getting my Cal/Mag yet... but that's next on my list as that's a biggie. Not only do we need it for strong teeth and bones, but it helps in weightloss and Fibro pain.

A good document to read about all the various vitamins and treatments for PCOS is "Mary's PCOS Treatment FAQ":
http://members.aol.com/marykateroget/

I'm using this as my guide to get me started, and boy has Mary done her research! It gives recommended doses and even mentions interactions with other vitamins and the like. I owe Mary bigtime!!!

When I was bigger (and I mean no disrespect with that hon, I was a BIG GIRL, but I lost 120+ lbs. I'm still a big girl, just not as big. I would NEVER judge a person on something as stupid as their size. I use the term "big girl" as a term of endearment amongst my friends. I'll never forget the way people treated me back then. It burns me up! Just clearing that up!) I would have all kinds of weird things happen when I laid down or stood up for too long. My outer thighs would go numb, for example, and get as cold as slabs of meat. My outer thighs would also go numb if I laid on my back, but if I laid on my sides my arms would go to sleep. We eventually had to buy a waterbed, and that helped tons. Even piling those foam mattress pads about three thick on your mattress can help remove those pressure points.

Truthfully sweetie, I was worried about Fibro, but I didn't want to say anything as I'm superstitious as heck about some things (thank my Irish grandma for that!). When my Fibro first flared up I started with these kinds of weird symptoms. Doctors kept mentioning it to me and I would get downright angry... I didn't want to have that! Finally as that winter got harsher my symptoms got dramatically worse... I'm talking I couldn't walk upright all of a sudden in one weekend. I would lie in the bathtub, soaking in epsom salts and hot water and just cry as my muscles burned like fire. It was crazy how fast it happened.

Do your muscles "wear out" or fatigue easily? I'm talking like your legs shaking when you try to go up stairs, for example. Do YOU wear out or fatigue easily these days? Do your muscles ache and burn? It's an odd sensation, a bit like when you have the flu, but quite different than just plain old sore muscles. Do they tighten/stiffen up when you are stationary for any length of time? Do you get "lumps" (spasms) in your muscles that hurt like heck?

Fibro can be so different for everyone, so it's hard to give general symptoms. It seems to run in my mother's family, with my Uncle having it BAD and I'm pretty sure my mom has it but she is in denial just as I once was. Even amongst family members our symptoms are similar, but different. I'd investigate a few websites, and if it sounds familiar to you, maybe read a few books, and if still sounds like a possibility I'd talk to your doctor about it. A rheumatologist usually diagnoses and treats Fibro, but honestly physical therapy and pain management has helped me the most. I'm a bigtime believer in physical therapy! It's helped me with so many things.

See, there I go running off at the mouth! Please write if it makes you feel better. Being sick and not knowing what is wrong is scary. You'll figure this out though, and once you're on the mend you'll feel so much better! (((hugs))) Please look into Fibro though... your symptoms are sounding so much like the ones I was having when it really laid me low.

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First PCOS dx: 1989
Supplements: One A Day Weight Smart, B Complex, Biotin, Pantothenic Acid (B5), B12, Saw Palmetto, Vit C, Vit D3, NAC, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Chromium Piconolate, Cinnamon, Magnesium, EPO, Zinc Gluconate, Green Tea
Diet: "Modified" Zone plan

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Chula

I went to the doctor and they said it was carpal tunnel and wanted to do surgery but I haven't decided yet.

Ok does anyone know why our writing in two tone. I mean I like it it's cool.

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Blakesmomma

Chula - hope you can decide whether to have the surgery or not. My SIL had it done an is doing fine now.

ABumpygal - I called the doctor's office this morning and they made an appointment for me at an orthopedic"s. I think it kind of nuts but it may be my back or something. Ever since I had the deadening shot (not epideryl) when I had DS I have had a burning sensation where I think they shot was given. I don't know if the lady giving it could have done any damage? Anyway looks like an MRI might be in my future - yuk! I will be heading to Peoria probably for that - not here in town!

Thanks for everything!
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rehanna

Hmm intresting i thought i'd look at this post as I seem to be getting a few more 'twiches' in my hands, fingers and even legs. If almost feels like someone poking you continuously for a few seconds.The other night my leg actually moved by itself while i was drifting off (whaaaattt???) But thats teh only way i can describe it as some type of trapped nerve reaction.

Any ideas?