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Old 10-27-2009, 10:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Has anyone had a positive OPK but no temp rise?

I had a positive OPK on Saturday, so I thought for sure my temp would rise yesterday or today. Of course it didn't because my reproductive system hates me.
Has this happened to anyone? Did your temp end up rising?
Also, I was on Clomid and had pretty good cervical mucus - two other reasons I thought for sure I'd ovulate.
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Some people can surge and then not ovulate.. There is a name for it, but right now it escapes me.
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This has happened to me. Whoever said temping works for everyone is plain wrong. I temped each cycle and there was never any pattern - however, each cycle I got positive OPKs. My ovulation was confirmed with my bloodwork. So yes - it is possible!!

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Old 10-27-2009, 11:42 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Technically your temperature SHOULD rise after the egg is released because of the hormone put out when that happens. I unfortunately don't remember the name of said hormone, but you may want to ask your RE.

Just a precautionary note, make sure your thermometer is working. I just bought a new expensive (well, $9) one and realized that my old cheapie thermometer was always .5 degrees below that the new one was reading. I actually took my temp on both about 10 times over the course of a day to see. I went back and lowered my temps by .5 on the days I used the old one, and lo and behold it gave me crosshairs just after I got my positive OPK.
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Like others said, sometimes you surge but the egg doesnt pop. That is why some of us get HCG shots, to insure that it pops

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Technically your temperature SHOULD rise after the egg is released because of the hormone put out when that happens.
I believe its the progesterone that causes the temp to rise.

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I went back and lowered my temps by .5 on the days I used the old one, and lo and behold it gave me crosshairs just after I got my positive OPK.
That's the reason you should always use the same thermometer throughout a cycle. No two thermometers (even the same brands) will give you the same temperature. If you switch in between a cycle your temps wont be accurate (as you noticed!)
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I posted a similar question yesterday, but didn't receive any reponses.

I had a positive opk on a saturday morning, but no rise in temp until the next thursday morning.

I am trying to figure out if it is more likely that the egg released later than you would expect, or if my body took longer to build up the progesterone that causes the rise in temp.

Your guess is as good as mine!

Unfortunately for me, we only BD'd once on Sunday morning...so I am not extremely hopeful, but we'll see!

Good Luck to you!

P.S. I am using an "expensive" thermometer
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gator, yeah, I know about that and I'm REALLY hoping that isn't what this is!

Jenny, interesting! I have a CD21 progesterone check on Friday, so now I'm totally curious as to what my numbers will be.

Chris, I literally just found that out. This morning when I saw that my temp hadn't risen, I tried a new thermometer right after and it was .3 degrees LOWER. Argh!

Geek, thanks for the info.
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pookie, looks like we have the same problem this month! Are you getting blood work on day 21?
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:34 PM   #8 (permalink)
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It isn't LUFS you're all thinking about, right? Cause that's the other way around - your chart shows a temp shift but your ovaries won't let go of the eggo.
I tried to look it up in TCOYF but it is only mentioned a few times that there are some women who don't show a biphasic pattern even while they O'd but unfortunately the name of that condition isn't mentioned.
Oceanic, in earlier cycles you did have a clear shift right? So I don't think you've joined the group of women who don't show bi-phasic charts. I think your body was getting ready to O and now for some reason is delaying it. Had a lot of stress this weekend maybe?
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That is exactly me...It's been happenning for the PAST 6 MONTHS ARGH
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I also get POSITIVE OVU KITS BUT THen NO rise in temp
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and I don't know why....why is this happenning that way??
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This isn't a steadfast rule. I did it for several cycles, with an expensive BBT thermometer (like $30), same time of day in the morning, same thermometer, just as you are supposed to, and there was never a rise. I even went out and bought a new BBT thermometer in case that other one was screwed up, and tried that one for a cycle just in case and there was no difference. Our bodies react differently to the hormones, and will not necessarily cause the same effects in every women. I already spoke to my OB and my fertility specialist (one of the best in Canada) and he said that it isn't the most reliable method and doesn't work for everyone, every time.
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Like others said, sometimes you surge but the egg doesnt pop. That is why some of us get HCG shots, to insure that it pops
July is right -- that's called LUFS. However, according to "Taking Charge of Your Fertility", many people still see a temp rise with LUFS. That particular problem is very tricky because you get all the signs of O, but O isn't actually happening. I think this problem can only be verified with ultrasound. Of course, if you're one of those people who don't have much/any of a temp rise, LUFS could still apply to you.
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I had a positive opk on a saturday morning, but no rise in temp until the next thursday morning.

I am trying to figure out if it is more likely that the egg released later than you would expect, or if my body took longer to build up the progesterone that causes the rise in temp.
In "Taking Charge of Your Fertility", it says some women are like this -- their bodies just take longer to respond to progesterone. I highly recommed this book. I read about 250 pages of it in one day, and I learned that I might have a suboptimal luteal phase.
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Our bodies react differently to the hormones, and will not necessarily cause the same effects in every women. I already spoke to my OB and my fertility specialist (one of the best in Canada) and he said that it isn't the most reliable method and doesn't work for everyone, every time.
Interesting, cause all I read and hear is that BBT is the best and only way to monitor our cycles (with the exception of B/W and U/S of course), if done correctly.

Last cycle I KNOW I didn't Ovulate, not only based on my weird temps, but because I frankly just know my body, and low and behold I didn't get AF. Obviously I was not preggo, either.

My doctors office refused to take MY word seriously, I was told to take a preggo test anyway and WAIT to start round 4. I was told my BBT charting was "not a good indicator of pregnancy or ovulation because there are so many variables that affect it." This made me a little angry, as I didn't O and they ended up having to write me a scrip for Provera to induce AF.

It almost is a little comforting to know that I should relax and NOT over-analyze my temps and all the obsessive monitoring. So I guess, thanks for noting this!
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It is possible to have "monophasic" BBT pattern (no temp rise) and still have ovulated. Most monophasic charts are annovulatory but there is about a 20% chance that you have actually ovulated.

Problem with taking your bbt is that there are external factors that may affect it: ilness, drinking alcohol the night before, inconsistent sleep patterns, moving around before temping.

I guess it depends on the person. For me OPK's are less reliable. I have gotten numerous positive opk's in cycles that have been annovulatory (confirmed by progesterone tests). I would use the cheap internet opk strips, then when I would get what I thought was a positive I would use the digital opks (the ones that give you the smiley face) to confirm it. It would confirm it but I wouldnt have ovulated. BBT has always been accurate for me.
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Right. After a positive OPK, could stress really delay ovulation? I guess I was a bit stressed this weekend, though it doesn't seem like it was much more than usual. And I'm ALWAYS stressed from TTC! lol
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Dont give up! There's also what I call fluke temps (unexplainable high or low temps).

If you click on my ticker and scroll down to the chart right before this one (the 9/1/09 cycle) I ovulated on cd 16 but my cd 17 temp was only slightly higher. I had gone in the previous monday for bloodwork and ultrasound and was told that I was about to ovulate on my own according to my bloodwork and I didnt need a trigger.

Dont let a couple of temps get you down, its the whole picture you need to look at, unfortunately the whole picture isnt up yet though.
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