help with ovulation

Kepi02 · 12-10-2002, 02:23 PM

hi everyone-need your help
I am currently taking vitex, dong quai and saw palmetto.
after taking these for 2.5 weeks af arrived--I took spi days 5-9 4 tablets of 40mg each and did not ovulate. It is now day 45 and AF has arrived again(yea) the v-dq are working. However I need help with ovulation--should I try spi again or something else?? When I was seeing a re he told me my eggs never grow big enough to release for ovulation. Any help would be great. Thanks so much--now that af has arrived again I need something for this cycle.

Maureen77 · 12-10-2002, 07:21 PM

I can tell you one thing, your eggs don't grow.

It is the follicle sac in the ovary that grows and then releases the egg due to correct levels of LH (lutenizing hormone) and FSH (follicle stimulating hormone) which are released from your pituitary gland.

You actually have all the eggs you are ever going to have intact in your mother's womb!

How's your insulin control? This is the main reason why PCOS women have abnormal LH/FSH levels and do not ovulate. Were all of these hormones checked when you saw your dr.?

Kepi02 · 12-12-2002, 09:27 PM

thanks for reponding-yes my levels were checked and the re said they came back fine. He suggested at the time for me to think about injectibles. That route scares me so I wanted to try the natural way first. I am having luck with the vitex/dq for af now I need help with ovulation. I don't know if I should try spi again this cycle or not??

Maureen77 · 12-13-2002, 02:33 AM

Well not to be too cynical, but I have seen a lot of things described as "fine" on these boards and my own experience - when they were actually NOT fine. Do you know what the levels are and have you checked them against the normal ranges yourself?

There is a reason why you are not ovulating and injectibles could be your answer but you seem kind of unsure as to the course of treatment because you haven't been given a reason for the problem by your dr.

the www.inciid.org site is a great resource, I recommend reading through that before you try the injectibles.

carrie1602 · 12-14-2002, 12:51 AM

How did you get AF again w/out O'ing? How do you know you didn't O? Do you check your bbts?? Just curious

Maureen77 · 12-14-2002, 01:05 AM

I have nontraditional PCOS, I've always had fairly regular AF.

When I first had an ultrasound showing the "string of pearls", I was then checked by the dr. drawing blood for several months to look for progesterone rise to see if I was ovulating regularly (as I was concerned about TTC). Of course this was a long time ago before I knew as much as I know now, and the dr. told me not to worry, I could just move on to fertility drugs to ovulate. That freaked me out and so I started reading and connecting ALL my symptoms together and then started taking charge of my own health.

Kepi02 · 12-14-2002, 05:49 PM

thanks for replying
I take my temps and watched for CM---my temps remained the same all cycle with very little change. I had one day with just a little cm 1 or 2 times when I went to the bathroom. I thought I read somewhere that it is possible to have af without ovulation? I am really confused now. I'm considering buying a opk however, I have a feeling a would have to buy 2 or 3 because with pcos I don't know when o will occur day 10 or day 40 or at all

nicola · 12-15-2002, 05:20 AM

hi Kepi
You did read somewhere that it is possible to have af without `o` i've just probably read the same post on the metformin section. and as for when you would `o` just say that this month for instance you had a 45 day cycle you would, probably `o` around day 31 (if you did `o`)and depending on how long your luteul phase is.You should expect `o` around 14 days before the next Af is due to begin.Everyone has different lengh Luteal phases so it is hard to pinpoint `o` unles you temp,use opks have blood test etc.
Hope i've helped and not confused you a bit more

nikki

Kepi02 · 12-15-2002, 03:00 PM

yes you have helped me a great deal--that makes sense thank you