How do you know if ovulation is FULL ovulation ?

52747 · 12-23-2006, 03:03 PM

Hi All

Just wondering

I know the various signs of ovulation - temp change , mucous etc. But I was wondering - for people who have pcos how do we know that these are all signs of a normal ovulation and not just an attemepted one - or is that what they all ARE - signs of a full ovulation (eg not just an attmpted one that becomes a cyst ?

Thanks :-)

kirvygerl · 12-23-2006, 06:02 PM

I think you may be asking how one would know if the egg was released from the ovary to potentially be fertilized? If you're in your childbearing years, you will have cysts on your ovaries because the egg needs someplace to grow until it is mature enough to be released in order to meet up with a sperm and get fertilized. The place in which it grows is a fluid-filled sac within the ovary called a cyst or follicle. More than one cyst may develop during the menstrual cycle, but, in general , only one attains maturity and ruptures unless you are taking fertility meds, in which case several can mature and rupture. The ones that mature and rupture are called the graafian follicle(s). After the Graafian follicle ruptures, releasing the egg, it begins to produces progesterone. Progesterone provides the environment necessary for the early pregnancy to develop. (Later-like after the first trimester, the placenta secretes the hormones). The ruptured Graafian follicle is then called the corpus luteum cyst. I don't know that there is a way to know for sure that you have had an ovulation that can produce a pg unless you have bloodwork and u/s. If you are having a progesterone (P4) test 7 days after ovulation, then you can see how "strong" of an ovulation you had by the number. A P4 level of 2 or 3 indicates some type of ovulation, but probably wouldn't make or sustain a pregnancy. Most dr's want to see a level of 10 or above on a natural (no fertility meds) cycle, and above a 15 on a medicated cycle. My clomid cycle P4 levels were always in the high 30's. I have also heard many dr's say that if you are not being monitored, and you have an af with cramps and pms, it's likely that you actually ovulated (I'm not sure exactly how they figure that). If you have u/s and a corpus luteum can be seen, then ovulation has occured.

Hope that helps. Good luck!

52747 · 12-27-2006, 10:26 PM

Thanks Kirvy - so how do people using soy know if they have ovulated in the sense of released an egg whcih can be fertilised if they are not being monitored by doctors ?

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Originally Posted by kirvygerl

I think you may be asking how one would know if the egg was released from the ovary to potentially be fertilized? If you're in your childbearing years, you will have cysts on your ovaries because the egg needs someplace to grow until it is mature enough to be released in order to meet up with a sperm and get fertilized. The place in which it grows is a fluid-filled sac within the ovary called a cyst or follicle. More than one cyst may develop during the menstrual cycle, but, in general , only one attains maturity and ruptures unless you are taking fertility meds, in which case several can mature and rupture. The ones that mature and rupture are called the graafian follicle(s). After the Graafian follicle ruptures, releasing the egg, it begins to produces progesterone. Progesterone provides the environment necessary for the early pregnancy to develop. (Later-like after the first trimester, the placenta secretes the hormones). The ruptured Graafian follicle is then called the corpus luteum cyst. I don't know that there is a way to know for sure that you have had an ovulation that can produce a pg unless you have bloodwork and u/s. If you are having a progesterone (P4) test 7 days after ovulation, then you can see how "strong" of an ovulation you had by the number. A P4 level of 2 or 3 indicates some type of ovulation, but probably wouldn't make or sustain a pregnancy. Most dr's want to see a level of 10 or above on a natural (no fertility meds) cycle, and above a 15 on a medicated cycle. My clomid cycle P4 levels were always in the high 30's. I have also heard many dr's say that if you are not being monitored, and you have an af with cramps and pms, it's likely that you actually ovulated (I'm not sure exactly how they figure that). If you have u/s and a corpus luteum can be seen, then ovulation has occured.

Hope that helps. Good luck!

PBLayzod · 12-27-2006, 10:35 PM

The temp change would usually confirm that it was a real O and not an attempted one. You want to see the temp shift and the temps staying elevated until AF. If you have the O signs and no temp shift or a temp shift and then a drop within a few days that would be a sign that you didn't really O.