Just an update. My friggin tubes are gloriously clear and wonderful and my stinkin' uterus is truly a thing of beauty. So why am I losing babies?
I'm so glad that nothing is wrong with me, but I was just hoping for an "Ah Ha" moment. The RE says "Ah HA! This is what's wrong with you. Here's a pill to fix it immediately and you should be pregnant in an hour or so." Is that so much to ask?
DH is going to do the SCSA next week. Who knows where we should go from there? The RE was very receptive to the donor egg conversation. We talked about IVF w/ PGD, we also just talked about try another round of shots. I'm just so confused.
I have:
1. Good Tubes & a clear uterus
2. No clotting issues
3. No immunilogiocal issues
4. A clear kareotype test
So this leaves egg quality, no? I ask RE this and he says maybe, but we don't know for sure. grrr....
I am ranting and cramping! Better go. Thanks for the support.
~Ann
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Did you ask if you do donor eggs though, what is the chance that you would still m/c'y? That was my problem even w/ IVF w/ PGD (which doesn't completely test for every little thing so something could still be wrong), if there was something wrong inside me that still wasn't found for some reason it wouldn't guarantee that I would keep a pg. I would be afraid that after going through all that (either donor eggs or IVF w/ PGD) that I would still m/c'y. I just didn't want to take the chance. If all the testing has been done and you really really want to be pg again, I would find an RI and get all the immune testing as well.
Not to be discouraging or anything, just trying to help you figure it out.
{{{{HUGS}}}} I too know the feeling that everything is ok when you so want something to be wrong w/ you...
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I had 6 m/c with no Ah, ha myself. For me, I had to find the Ah, ha on my own. I discovered it by accident. I decided to try to lose weight, thinking losing weight might help. I started Atkins and immediately got pregnant. We're talking within weeks. I stopped the diet and almost immediately m/c. It was a moment of enlightenment for me. I thought back on the times that I had managed to get pregnant. Everytime I was experimenting with Atkins but didn't have the willpower to continue or found out I was pregnant and stopped because you aren't supposed to diet while pregnant. Some people swear it is mere coincidence (sp?). It's not coincidence, it helps regulate my body. I got right back on the diet and tried again. I had more good follies than ever before. BFP. This time I didn't stop dieting. I slowly added the carbs I needed to provide proper nutrition for my baby and no more. As a type II diabetic, the diet kept me from needing any medication or insulin. Today, I am awaiting the first birthday of my own little miracle. I don't know if this would help everyone. I just wanted to share my Ah, ha moment and wish you the best of luck in finding yours. I'm so sorry for your losses.
I'm glad you posted. I happy to hear that all is clear! I know you were hoping for answers but, it's still good to know that your organs are normal. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
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. If all the testing has been done and you really really want to be pg again, I would find an RI and get all the immune testing as well.Traci
I have actually had the immune testing done too and all is normal.
Thanks for the suggestions, though! I know you have been through way more than I have and I am so happy that your adoption from China is in process. That must be so exciting. We are considering adoption from Guatemala if we get to the point that I can't take anymore. Someone has a quote about how their desire to be a Mom is greater than the fear of miscarriage and that's how I am feeling now. Who knows how I will feel down the road? Thanks again, Ann
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In my signature I used to have a saying "My desire to have a family is greater than my desire to be pg or have biological children". Meghan had the other saying in her signature (not sure if she still does) and I know atleast 1 other person (can't remember who) had the same saying.
It's hard to decide to adopt. We always knew we were going to adopt but had to come to the point where we really wanted a family and just couldn't deal with any more losses. I had to give up the thought of ever being pg again (which wasn't a huge deal to me b/c I was so terrified that I would have another loss that I didn't even want to ever be pg). I had to give up the thoughts of our child looking like us. You also have to think about your family as well. I knew that our family would welcome our child/ren w/ open arms. My mom was adopted when she was a baby so I knew she would be very, very happy. It came to a point where our families were just ready to be grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc. and they wouldn't care if our child was an alien at this point! Had it not been for everything we had gone to and just said we were going to adopt I think our families would have had way more questions than they did.
Thanks so much! Please let me know if you have any questions or if you just ever want to talk.
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Two thoughts, but I'm no expert. I recently read a study on MSN of all places - the risk of M/C with donor eggs is higher than with your own. Something about your body thinking they're invaders? Just something to think about. I don't know how the whole process works.
Laura, I agree about the diet side of things. I was low-carbing when I got pregnant, and once I was pregnant I thought, "Wow, I can eat that again...and that....and that.....and THAT, too!" I don't blame myself for Rivi's death, but I'll always wonder if a better diet might have kept my hormones under control. I know that my body just works better when I'm low-carbing.
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Thanks for all of the good advice. I think I read the same thing, Viv so I am defintely scared. We may try an IFV attempt before going the donor egg route. It's just nice to know that I have so many options. I just heard something on the radio that I thought was fitting for all of us. It was in a country song and it said "If you want to hear God laugh tell him your plans" Do you think any of us thought for a minute that we would ever be here? I spent SO may years doing everything possible to make sure I didn't get PG! Isn't it ironic...don't you think?
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I think many of us spent years trying to prevent pg and here we are...makes you wonder if everything we did to try and prevent somehow caused what we're all going through now (PCOS).
My only issue w/ trying an IVF was there was still no reason why I was m/c'ying so there was really no guarantee that I wouldn't miscarry again. I think we may have gone on w/ IVF had there been a cause & treatment but I just couldn't take the disappointment anymore.
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Ann,
I'm happy that your equipment is in good shape. It would be great to have some answers, but I guess we just don't know all of the frigging questions. *sigh* Good luck with the next step, whatever that will be.
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Laura, I agree about the diet side of things. I was low-carbing when I got pregnant, and once I was pregnant I thought, "Wow, I can eat that again...and that....and that.....and THAT, too!" I don't blame myself for Rivi's death, but I'll always wonder if a better diet might have kept my hormones under control. I know that my body just works better when I'm low-carbing.
Just one quick thing for Viv...
The diet wasn't a cure all. Remember, I almost lost Jamie and I was sticking to my diet pretty good at the time. I think my time in bed is what got me further. Just didn't want you to have one more thing to wonder about.
My DF & I are on the verge of IVF with PGD due to a chromosomal abnormality which I am a carrier of. I see you have spoken to your RE concerning PGD, and I'm just wondering why he/she is considering this as an option for you?
My understanding is that this testing can involve a count of the chromosomes and/or a molecular examination for a particular gene or mutation within an embryo. I guess I'm just confused because your karyotype was all good and I thought that a PGD test was a test that looks for specifics, and not a broad range, scan for everything kinda thing. I also know that if/when we have it done it will be extremely expensive and they will only be testing the embryo for this one wonky chromosome, and as a PP mentioned, it doesn't guarantee that something won't go wrong in another area.
It's also important that your partner has a karyotype done, as this may be the reason for your losses.
If after all your testing is done and still nothing seems to be the cause, they will probably put it down to "unexplained infertility" which apparently is fairly common and you may choose to pursue IVF.
Love luck and babydust to you honey, try to be strong, I know it's hard. Hugs,
Karen.
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Laura, I will wonder, though. Isn't that part of this whole curse???
I wasn't working when I was pregnant. I spent a lot of time laying down, which I think helped me make it as far as I did. I will have a cerclage if/when I get pregnant again, but I think I'm only going to work PT if possible. And I'd prefer not to work at all and just stay DOWN!
And no, I never thought I'd be here. Before I found out about PCOS, I thought everyone could get pregnant eventually, even if they needed help. Before I found out about pregnancy loss, I thought all babies made it once they'd reached the second trimester. And before I found out about the odds against preemies, I thought they all survived, too, after lots of intervention.
It's amazing how much more we learn from each other than from our doctors. I think our doctors should be frequenting these forums and learning a few things themselves.
Yes, Viv, it is the curse. I question myself about all my losses. Did I kill them all by not dieting? Stuff like that. And no matter what anyone says, I can't help believing that. Not that I really blame myself (sometimes), I didn't know any better, but the thought that there was something that I could have done.
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