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Old 07-06-2005, 05:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Interesting info posed by professor (NOT TRYING TO START A DEBATE)

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My summer courses started on Tuesday. I was sitting in History class today and my professor posed an interesting point of view. He was telling us about his triplet grandchildren and that they were conceived via IVF. He then proceeds to ask the following question:

You have 10 eggs, you choose to implant 5, what happens to the remainder?

Do you:
A.) throw the remainder in the trash?
B.) freeze the remainder? With this he stated if frozen, one is assumed dead. So would thawing of the eggs be resurection?
C.) what if a divorce happens? who gets the eggs?

I just found his points very interesting and thought I would share these with you.

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Old 07-06-2005, 06:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hmmm, food for thought. Isn't it amazing how a professor can start making you think about things you never would have thought of otherwise.

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Here's another one...

What if a divorce happens, and the woman implants some eggs without the ex-husband's permission, and he has to pay child support and be linked to her forever for something he thought was over and done with? Or the male takes the embryos and has them implanted in his new significant other without his ex-wife knowing it? And if he does this, is SHE liable for child support - technically they are her children, biologically that is. Ooooh boy, the possibilities are limitless...
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Old 07-06-2005, 06:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Jennifer he does have an interesting point of view and i would have to say each case or couples is different.

for me i wouldn't throw them away. Those would still be my babies.....

As far as freezing them....ummmm very interesting........i know that cronogy...( sp? ) the idea of freezing a person once they have died for ( many centerys from now ) to unfreeze them and bring them back to life has been thrown around for some time. I guess it depends on what you belief system is about death and rebirth and ressurection. I mean i guess in a way sence you are stoping cell division you could call it death. For me i don't know if i'd freeze them.

As far as a divorce.......ummmm....... Well sence women are the ones who make the eggs i would say the women gets them as they belong to her. I know what about the sperm.....well yes it does take two to tango.....but the mother/ women is the one who carrys the child. So i would think it fair for the mother to get the eggs with a provision in the divorce decree....that simply states any eggs implanted after the date of signed divorce decree by the divorcees are no longer the responiblity of the soon to be ex husband finatually.........but that there is an opening for the child to see the sperm donnor if both see fit, unless it's not a good thing.

But as i stated to each their own, and each case is differnt i think it should be up to said couple as to what to do with the eggs.

but thank you jennifer i think this is something people don't think about before they do ivf or other things such as this. History teacher is pretty cool in my book
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Old 07-06-2005, 06:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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If I'm done having live children, I think I will donate mine to someone else. 'Course, DH might not agree.
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Old 07-06-2005, 10:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Geez...this makes my head hurt. I've had a long day, I'll have to ponder this one later, hahaha
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I could never do IVF, just because of these ethical issues. It gets so complicated, and dh and I firmly believe that life begins at conception. We wouldn't want to take risks that might mean the death of a new life.

That being said, if I am not pregnant by 35, we have talked seriously about embryo adoption. I hope more people consider adopting out the embryos and not discarding them. It's a win-win situation.
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That being said, if I am not pregnant by 35, we have talked seriously about embryo adoption. I hope more people consider adopting out the embryos and not discarding them. It's a win-win situation.
I agree with you i think that is a selfless thing to do.

I would do that if i was doing ivf, but i would ask it goes to someone who has strong christian beliefs a good moral home and beliefs, among other things but thats just me.
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:48 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I was sitting thinking...Is this the right forum to discuss this?
I have no clue, so I will leave it here for now.

As for the post.....I am glad I don't have to deal with that subject!!

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Thanks for all of your replies ladies! Your different view points are interesting!

This was just a food for thought type post, LOL!
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What history class are you taking that this subject came up? I'm curious as a PhD candidate in history--I can't quite see this coming up in any of the classes around here.
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You know this is funny... my friend had IVF & had 3 empryos (sp??) frozen. then about 2 years later she got divorced, I should ask her what happened
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I agree with you i think that is a selfless thing to do.

I would do that if i was doing ivf, but i would ask it goes to someone who has strong christian beliefs a good moral home and beliefs, among other things but thats just me.
There are wonderful embryo adoption people who can help with information for this!

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As mentioned in an above post, I think that if I am unable to get preg myself, I would adopt other embryos. I also believe life begins at conception, and this way, I would not risk ending the life of my embryos, and also attempt to nurture the life of existing embryos.
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Old 07-07-2005, 02:44 AM   #15 (permalink)
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Those are all very interesting points. IVF can be a blessing for those who choose to do it, but I hate that they then have to deal with the possible ethical/moral issues that arise. I think embryo adoption is a great option to consider.
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