Interfaith Cysters...anyone interested?

Ammaarah · 03-28-2005, 11:52 PM

Salaam, Shalom, Peace,

Is anyone interested in an interfaith thread? Maybe we can all promise not to prosletyze (toooooo much

) and not to bash, and see how it goes? I know many of us probably have questions about other faiths, and I always like to see what we all have in common as well. I am in an interfaith Yahoo group but it's pretty dead, so I thought I'd try to bring that spirit here.

I'll start. I'm Ammaarah. I'm Muslim and I would classify myself as fairly orthodox. That said, I am also a pretty modern woman. Uhhh...I dunno what else to say! Anyone else out there? :p

HISIRISHGEM · 03-29-2005, 12:23 PM

Great Idea!

I'm Rebekah and I'm a born again Christian.

We believe in the essentials of Christianity based on whats taught in the Old and New testament of the Bible. Here's what we believe:

We accept the Scriptures as our authority in matters of faith and practice, and adopt the following Confession of Faith as our interpretation of Bible Doctrine:

* We believe the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments as verbally inspired of God and inerrant in the original writings, and that they are of supreme and final authority.

* We believe in one God, eternally existing in three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit: three in one, co-equal, which is the Trinity.

* We believe that Jesus Christ was begotten of God, conceived of the Holy Spirit, and born of the Virgin Mary.

* We believe in the Holy Spirit, third Person in the Trinity, Who convicts the world of sin, of righteousness, and of judgment. He is the life of every believer, and He empowers the preaching and teaching of the Gospel.

* We believe that man was created in the image of God, that he sinned, thereby incurring not only physical, but spiritual death (which is separation from God), and that all human beings are born with a sinful nature which is manifested in thought, word, and deed.

* We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, as a representative and substitutionary sacrifice, and that all who believe in Him are justified on the ground of His shed blood.

* We believe in the resurrection of the crucified body of our Lord, His ascension into Heaven and His present life there as High Priest and Advocate for all believers.

* We believe in that blessed hope, the personal, premillenial, and imminent return of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

* We believe that salvation is the gift of God, offered to man by grace and received by personal faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, whose precious blood was shed on Calvary for the forgiveness of our sins. All who receive Jesus Christ as their personal Saviour are born again of the Holy Spirit and become children of God and heirs of eternal life. This is a relationship in which they are eternally secure.

* We believe in the bodily resurrection of the just and unjust, the everlasting conscious punishment of the lost in hell, and the everlasting blessedness of the saved in heaven.

* We believe that Satan is a person, the author of sin, and the cause of the fall; that he is the open and declared enemy of God and man. Satan is still working in the world to destroy the souls of men, and he and all his angels and all who receive not Christ as their Saviour will eternally perish in the Lake of Fire.

* We believe in the Church, the Body of Christ, whose mission it is to preach the Gospel to all the world. We believe that all of its endeavors should be supported by the love-gifts of the members.

* We believe that the ordinances of the Church, given by our Lord are baptism (by immersion following conversion) and the Lord's Table (Communion).

Basically in a nutshell...Everyone makes mistakes/sins nobody is perfect INCLUDING Christians. Our belief is that if one believes in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, Confesses with His or Her mouth (not to a priest or pastor..but directly to God sincerely and faithfully) that he/she believes that Jesus stepped in as our sacrifice and lives. You are saved by His grace.

I know many people see hypocrocy in religeon and even sometimes in Christians, but my belief is that I am a sinner and not perfect in any way...my only forgiveness and way to heaven without being perfect is through Christs death and resurrection. It makes me sad when fingers are pointed to gays/lesbians.....or of someones weakness and "Turn or Burn" methods are used instead of Jesus' methods of "LOVE". An example, I'm TERRIBLE with money....God asks us to be wise with His money...am I?? No, its my weakness. So is my sin any lesser than someone whos gay or lesbian?? Someone who struggles with sex addiction?? No. All are sins, therefore I have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to judge anyone! It is only through Jesus blood that my sin of not being a good stewardt with the money God gave me that I can be forgiven.

I wanted to describe to everyone what a born again Christian is...while not everyone follows those practices....The reason we believe we are here is to show His (Jesus') love to one another.

Ammaarah · 03-29-2005, 02:34 PM

Rebekah (your name is lovely, by the way),

My name means tolerant and a woman of strong faith. I can't read Aramaic but it is quite similar in structure to Arabic, which I can read (a little!) I can't speak Arabic, however, other than a few phrases and a few verses from the Qur'an. But I would be really lost trying to read or understand Aramaic.

I do live in the U.S., and while many Muslims here have been harassed by ignorant people since 9/11, I have found most people are too busy with their lives to be intolerant. I do think there are is some hatred and mistrust that is hidden and comes out from time to time. However, I think most people are above that and more willing to judge individuals on a, well, individual basis! I have only gotten 2 negative comments to my face, both while I was at the mall, and both from kids about 13 years old who were trying to impress their little girlfriends. That *hurt!*

Nah, I could take it.

Something I think many people don't know is that Muslims are also followers of Jesus. While we do not believe in Christ's divinity, we do believe he was born of the Virgin Mary and ascended to heaven. We do not believe in the same Passion story, either. However, we honor Jesus and believe in his teachings. We actually honor and follow all the Judeo-Christian prophets.

Here, I copied the Cliff's Notes of Muslim belief from Wikipedia

Six articles of belief
There are six basic beliefs shared by all Muslims:

Belief in God, the one and only one worthy of all worship.
Belief in the Angels.
Belief in the Books (sent by God).
Belief in all the Prophets and Messengers (sent by God).
Belief in the Day of Judgment (Qiyamah) and in the Resurrection.
Belief in Fate (Qadar).

The Muslim creed in English:

I believe in God; and in His Angels; and in His Scriptures; and in His Messengers; and in The Final Day; and in Fate, that Good and Evil are from God, and Resurrection after death be Truth.
I testify that there is nothing worthy of worship but God; and I testify that Muhammad is His Messenger.

Anyway, I am glad we started this discussion and I hope more people join in soon! My cousin is a born-again Christian (was raised Lutheran) and I just realized I really knew very little about her religion and had just made some idiot assumptions based on media depictions of born-again Christians. Shame on me! I appreciate your clear explanations.

MegManuel · 03-29-2005, 06:45 PM

What a great idea, an interfaith thread!

I currently have a hard time classifying my faith. I was raised in a Christmas-and-Easter type Christian family, went through a phase of atheism after a series of tough times in high school, and then came upon Unitarian Universalism in college.

In a nutshell, UU is a very liberal religion- there are some members who are pagan, some who are more Christian-leaning, or theistic, or humanistic, or agnostic... you name it, they have some of them. I enjoyed the services there for a time but I started to feel like it was too political. While I have strong political ideas, and often agreed with what was said during the services, I don't consider Sunday morning services a good time for political messages, you know?

Around the time I was diagnosed with PCOS I started searching for my own spiritual path apart from the UU church. I felt like I needed a deeper understanding of my own beliefs about God in order to process what I was going through physically. My parents have become "born-again" to use Rebekah's term, and are going to a fantastic church in their town. I went there one Sunday and it was like God was speaking directly to ME through the minister, about turning to God during your tough times and understanding that things happen for reason, but we are not alone. I sobbed through the whole service. I go to their church now whenever I'm in town, but I live 3 hours away, so that's not too often. I haven't found a church I like that much where I current live, but I'm "shopping."

I believe that there is a loving, nurturing God up there somewhere who created us, but not that God is so much a person, more of a Spirit. I believe that Jesus Christ lived and died but I don't believe in the Holy Trinity or that Jesus was the Son of God anymore than you or I are. (And yes, my parents tell me that I'm going to Hell because of that belief.) On that note, not sure what I believe about the Afterlife, though I do think that if there is one everyone who lived a good life, worked hard, and loved others will be there, not just people who were "baptized" or whatever. I don't think Heaven's a resort just for Christians; anyone can go. Not sure about hell.

I love learning about other religions, when I was in college I loved reading some Islamic texts because it's so beautiful. I also have read some Buddhist and Hindu texts that I enjoy. I think it's fascinating how similar many of the stories are from one religious tradition to the next- to me that only cements my belief that we all come from the same God, we just have different names and beliefs and practices to worship God.

So that's my "shpiel," I guess. :p If it's confusing, sorry, that's where I am emotionally these days so it figures that my thoughts would be confusing as well!

I know it's being discussed to death on every possible media outlet, but I'll ask anyway-- based on your respective religious traditions, Amaarrah (love the name!) and Rebekah (love yours too!), and anyone else, what are your thoughts and feelings about the right-to-die case of Terri Schiavo?

Someone else's turn to blab now!

Ammaarah · 03-29-2005, 07:34 PM

Hi Meg! My dad is a UU, and it's nice knowing that I could walk into his church and no one would bat an eye...actually I think they'd be psyched to have me.

Your spiritual journey sounds a lot like mine. I was raised Catholic (my mom's Catholic) but I felt the need to find my own path, which I did. Gee, thinking about it, I have a pretty interfaith family. These religions are represented:

*Catholic
*Muslim
*Lutheran
*UU
*Born-again Christian
*Bahai
*Jehovah's Witness

Whoa, what a melting pot, huh?

I too have gotten a lot of inspiration from different faiths. I believe nearly all people of faith are sincerely trying to serve the same Creator, and that God is a lot more loving and accepting of us than we can fathom. Meg said I think it's fascinating how similar many of the stories are from one religious tradition to the next and I definitely agree with this statement. I was just watching a program about India, and they showed some Hindus praying, and it looked so similar to the postures and prostrations we Muslims do while praying, even though there are some major differences between those religions. And I got to thinking about how so many people of faith assume a position of humility when praying, whether it is sitting with their heads down, kneeling, or prostrating. Interesting.

As for the Terri Schiavo case, I believe the husband has really been out of line and made a terrible choice. I believe food and water are human rights. That said, I also believe God's will is always done, even when we on Earth don't like it, so I know there is a reason for this that is beyond the scope of my understanding.

stark tjej · 03-29-2005, 11:10 PM

I think Mrs. S. should get food and water - it seems pretty wrong to be able to withhold that. It is hard for me to understand how it is possible too, since her family is willing to care for her. I don't know too much about it, but those are my 2 cents.

I love God, even though the journey isn't always easy. The more I live giving of myself tangibly to others, reading God's word and learning from others, the more God and life make sense to me.

I was wondering about Muhammed (sp?). Was his birth considered special/ did he die? What were his main teachings?

Also, I never quite get it when people say it but I'm not trying to be argumentative, I'm just trying to understand - how does one agree with Jesus' teachings but not believe he's god (he said he's God)?

disintegration · 03-30-2005, 12:52 AM

Merry Meet all!
Hi, my name is Tara and I am Wiccan. I starting learning at 11 and initiated at 12, in a Alexandrian/Gardenian Coven and now practice on my own because I found them too orthadox...and I love the idea of this thread.

Wiccan's believe in a dual diety, a God and a Goddess. I believe that all religions are valid and love to learn about them all.

Juana Baby · 03-30-2005, 01:14 AM

Becky sums up what I believe as a Christian. I don't really agree with "religion" because I think that people put their own beliefs and feelings as law. I am what you would consider a Jesus Freak. Actually love that term.

At first when I was not very aware of Terry Schiavo's condition, and thought she was a vegetable, I thought it was humantarian thing to do - but again I did not understand what all that this entailed. Now knowing that she is a fully functioning person - not mentally but has some communication , she laughs, and feels, and whatnot - I think it is a tragedy that they would make her suffer like that. Now it boils down to "that shalt not kill."

One of the guys that I work with had a similar discussion today. We were discussing how I had worked at a handicapped camp and one of the girls was visually (blind) and mentally impaired (retarded). He asked the question that if you knew that your child was going to have these impairments, would you abort? I said again, "thou shalt not kill." If the child that God blessed me with had impairments then that is what I was blessed with. But again, I have not been in that situation, and who knows what I would chose. In Terry's case it sounds like she is choosing life.

Have a wonderful day.

laural

disintegration · 03-30-2005, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HISIRISHGEM

Hiya Teri! Where did you learn and who from?? What is the initiation and what is it like? Who are the Gods and Goddesses?? What is a gardenian Coven?

Can ya tell I like to ask questions? :p

And I don't mind answering them...

.

A coven is a place where other Wiccans meet, to pray together, celebrate holidays together and do certain things together. A Gardenian Coven is one who practices a certain sect of Wicca based on Gerald Gardeners writings, who was a witch in England. They are the most staunch of all Wiccans, very orthadox and to the point. Alexandrians are very similar being based off Gardeners students writings. To be properly initiated one must learn the Wiccan religion for a year and one day. To be initated is similar to being baptised. Our Gods and Goddesses can be anything we choose. We understand there is a God and a Goddess, but we can put any name or face on them we like. I learned from the coven. HTH

Ammaarah · 03-30-2005, 09:03 PM

Rebekah - I am not a UU but I'll try to answer. Some UUs believe in a heaven and hell, some don't. It's really an "open" religion. So the ones who believe in the Bible probably believe in heaven and hell, I would guess. I know there are other people who believe nobody goes to hell but it does exist...I know it sounds different but it is what some believe. My mother is Catholic and she believes everybody will go to heaven eventually...I am not sure I disagree with her even though that's not the mainstream view of my religion. I mean, certainly, some folks are not heaven-ready when they die, but I really like to believe God made no junk and therefore will give people more chances...I dunno! I guess we'll see someday, gulp!

As for what led me to convert, I should say that I have really never believed in all the tenets of Catholicism although I have always had a lot of love for that religion (and I still do.) I never believed in Jesus' divinity, nor his death and resurrection, and obviously those are HUGE if you're supposed to be a Christian, so I felt alienated from the church. I left the church on good terms as a teen. I studied different religions, and the one I kept coming back to was Islam. Even though Islam has a lot of negative PR, the Muslims I know really try to live their religion, which is very similar to Christianity and Judaism in many ways.

I am married and my husband is Muslim also. However, we got married after I had converted...I didn't meet him until I'd been a practicing Muslim for a while. Some folks assume I converted because of him but that's not true. I actually know a lot of Muslim women converts who were Muslim before marriage.

stark tjej - Don't worry, you don't sound argumentative to me at all. I started this thread so we could learn from one another. While I agree with the essence of the New Testament, I also agree with the mainstream Muslim view that that particular text is not of divine origin. We believe in the Torah (old Testament), the Psalms of David, the teachings revealed to Jesus by God (but we don't believe those are recorded and thus, we reject the New Testament) and of course, the Qur'an. We believe the first two have been altered and therefore we don't rely on them as we rely on the Qur'an (although I have read them and I believe in much of the teachings therein.)

As for following Jesus without believing he's divine - I've read the Bible but I can't remember all of it

...does Jesus come out and say, "I'm God" or is it something stated by others? Now I have to put the "not trying to be argumentative" disclaimer on this post, but I'm just wondering.

On the topic of following him, we want to be peaceful, kind people with a great love and respect for all God's creation. We want to be people who are willing to sacrifice some worldly stuff for that which is more important...serving God. So that's how I believe we can follow Jesus (peace be upon him) without worshipping him.

As for Mohammed, he had a natural birth and death. When his mother was pregnant, some people foretold the coming of a prophet to the Arabs. When he was a tot, he was visited by angels who washed his heart clean of sins, so he experienced a miracle that early, and miracles occurred throughout his life, peace be upon him too! Let me know if you want to know some more, 'k?

By the way, what is your religion/belief system?

Tara - Thank you for explaining about Wicca...I knew some lovely Wiccans when I was in college. I'm glad to read a little more about it. Glad to see you here.

laural - hey darlin', nice to see you here! Hope you're well!

disintegration · 03-30-2005, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by HISIRISHGEM

Ok, I'm confused....but then again...I can easily be confused.lol

How do you choose your own God and Goddess?? You mean like say.....Your car is your God and you bow to it?? Who is Gerald Gardener?? I know he's from England but when did this religeon start?

Ok, this might sound stereotypical...but this forum is to educate, so please forgive me if I act dumb! I know that wiccans wear black, I see you have a black bird as your pic on the side of your name.....are wiccans considered satanic and thats why they associate themselves with black? I guess what I'm asking is are wiccans only belief in the forces of darkness?? (I sound like Luke Skywalker :p )

In my faith...black birds were used by God for good.....I know alot of people associate them with evil, but God used them to bring food for Elijah the profit when there was Famine in the land of Israel.

So this is a religeon basically to study and practice?? There's (and excuse my naievity) no concrete ....mmmm what am I trying to say here. Like the Bible...there is concrete facts that Jesus was real..there are several writings of the Bible that have been found, etc...so its not something made up, etc.....Where does wicca come from...I know it comes from that British man...but how?? Was he bored one day?? (please don't take this the wrong way...I'm trying to figure it out and I'm actually learning...I'm just trying to figure out how to ask questions...so they may not come out the way I'd plan. I hope your with me here Ok, maybe I can say this, its a study and practice of anything....there are no rules and no real History from the creator of the religeon? Does that sound easier to understand from me?? I'm so darn confused that its easy to make others confused too.lol

I hope I haven't affended you with my questions..I think this will help me understand more.....even in Christianity I ask questions.....There are many things one can fall for that aren't truth in Christianity so one must ask questions and research the truth in Gods word as a Christ seeker. I do the same thing with other things religeous or not. It's good to research and find out facts, etc. look forward to hearing from you....Oh....question, you did this at a young age....are your parents also wiccans? If not do they know you practice wicca?? What are their thoughts.....if they are wiccans do you practice together?

Wiccans only wear black if they like it. It's not an overall religious thing. I wear black cause its slimming..

. Usually Wiccans dress like everyone else. As for the crows, I just like crows..heh. No meaning there. We believe to communicate with the divine we have to understand and name the divine. We have to have a picture of them in our head, to be able to talk to them. Thats where the choosing your own dieties comes from. You choose who you are comfortable with and thats who you speak to. There are a parthanon of gods and goddesses to chose from or you can make up your own...even if you worship your car. If it is what you are comfortable with then that is your god.

Heres a sterotype that I love to squash and I am glad you brought it up...

. Satan is a concept that is biblical in nature...since not believing in the doctrines of the bible, I can not believe in Satan. Wiccans are held by the three-fold law which is like karma. If I do something to you, it will come back three-fold. For example, if I steal money from you it will come back. So, in turn we do not worship evil. We have nothing to do with evil. No evil here!Love and light is our motto. Wicca is a philosophy that I follow, and practice by celebrating the influence of the God and Goddess in my life.

One must remember that Wicca is an earth bases religion following the ebb and flow of the natural world. It is an old religion which many followed in earlier times. Being harvest based we follow the seasons and the planets. My father is Roman Catholic, my mother Protestant...I came into it early because of some circumstances which I would rather not post at this time...

Did I answer them all? Please do not hesitate to ask...and don't feel bad if you have any questions. I am here to answer anything you have.

disintegration · 03-30-2005, 11:07 PM

It's all good Becky!

As for the idea of Satan, I belive that there are evil people, and good people...there are truly evil things in the world and the truly good. It is a balance. How would one know if a good person is good, if there was no evil to compare it too? To me and this isn't just Wiccan, the world is in a balance. Male and female, black and white, evil and good. In a way, we might need evil to truly appricate what is good on this little planet we call home. How would you know God was truly good if Satan was not so evil? KWIM? That's how I see things. Wiccans consider things like people hurting people evil, just as you do. However, we realize its a balance..and try our best to make the good shine through..

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Ammaarah-I have always found Islam and its writings so peaceful to me. I tend to like to study religions of others so I have a better overall worldview and I must say, I enjoy Islam the best. Inshallah to me is such a perfect phrase..."if God is willing"...it sums up so much...

Dyonisya · 03-30-2005, 11:38 PM

Well not to confuse things. :p
I'm classify myself as a Solitary Pagan... with a Wiccan/Zen/Kitchen Witch slant to things.

Like disintegration I'm Wiccan in the fact that I practice a religion based upon the Goddesses and Gods.
Unlike her though I primarily work with the Goddess Trinity (Maiden, Mother, Crone) bringing in the God aspects as necessary. I learned things on my own through self study and research hence the "Solitary" vs. a coven. This basically means I do my Spiritual Practices/Ceremonies on my own with out others about 75% of the time. The other 25% of the time I join other Solitary practitioners or open Circles (another name for Covens) to do things.

The "Zen" portion of things is because I have studied some Buddhist Meditation practices which I incorporate into my Spiritual work.

And the Kitchen Witch portion is well more or less self-explanitory. Basically I get a little Witchy when it comes to my home/kitchen. Okay now you're prolly thinking "Witchy" as in Witchcraft? As in Spells?
Hmmm... Well yes and no. Essentially I believe a well intentioned prayer, meditation, blessing, or whatever is just as effective if not more so than a proverbial spell.

Ummm... Can't think of much else right off hand. I'm open to answering any questions you may have.

And I hope I haven't confused things.

Blessings,
D

Ammaarah · 03-30-2005, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HISIRISHGEM

Ammaarah,
I have an answer for your question about Jesus...but its going to take me awhile to gather my thoughts and also the answer from the Bible...so I'll post again later this evening. My husband and I giggled at the question...not because its a silly question, but because you are EXTREMELY bright! my post just above you says I like to ask questions and research them with truth in Gods word. EVERYONE should be doing the same.....you just did! I like that quality!

I have another question for you....do you wear that head shield thats next to your name?? What is it called?? In the Bible women of the Old Testament wore those....a part of me ((shielding my head from the feminists.lol)) think its something special. Why? You may ask. First of all, I think women in your religeon as well as many middle eastern women do it in order to protect themselves from lust and also other men from the same. Its something respectful. I also take from it, that In the Bible...God speaks of our "Real Beauty" coming from submission or respect to both God and our spouses, not from our outer-beauty which society really degraded women into thinking their ugly without plastic surgery, or name brand bags, etc. I know that alot of Christian women and men don't believe in that anymore....but I really sometimes wish we did. Sometimes its out of selfishness to hide though.

Is your DH middle-eastern? Are you or are you white, hispanic, asian, etc.? How does your religeon accept diversity?

Aw shucks, EXTREMELY bright...you're too sweet. :p I look forward to your answer when you get time.

I do wear the scarf and the face veil as shown in my avatar (although that's not me, she just looks like me!)

Sometimes we call the scarf a hijab, dupatta, or other names, and the face part is called a niqab. I wear it so my beauty is saved for my hubby. I like it too, I think it is very sexy to only be "out there" for him. By the way, I do take it off in front of other women and in front of children, as well as my male family members. But I wear it other times. Many Muslim women believe it is a requirement to at least cover the head. It's supposed to help us remember God (which I think is the most important reason) and also to be "known" as Muslims so we're not harassed sexually. Of course, it's not magic and plenty of Muslim women have been harassed for wearing it. But I have been very lucky to be treated well in spite of my clothing choices. I like to wear soft colors and I don't cover my eyes like some women do, I think that may also have something to do with the fact that I haven't been harassed. I dunno! I know there are some Christian women who do wear a headscarf based on a verse from Corinthians, ordering believing women to cover. My grandma wore gloves and a hat to mass until Vatican II. Also, I know many Orthodox Jewish women wear wigs or scarves, too.

As for submission, our religion "Islam" means submission, to God, first and foremost. Orthodox Muslims believe the man is head of the family (assuming a couple is married, of course) but the religion itself is not overly patriarchal, IMHO. Some folks say women should "obey" their husbands, which is a word I detest, but I do think it's good for a woman to defer to her husband if it's possible and if it's good for the marriage, just for the sake of harmony. But I don't believe in being a doormat and of course any woman has the right to disagree with her husband. I also think husbands should listen to their wives. My husband is the most gentle man I have ever known, so letting him make some of our major decisions is a great comfort to me.

Oh, last but not least...my hub is South Asian (Bangladesh...by India) and I am Euro-American. My roots are Irish, Scottish, Polish, and French.

Tara - Black is TOTALLY slimming! I love black, myself.

It is a real blessing that there's so much good Islamic literature available that so many people enjoy regardless of religion. I mean, think about it, Rumi was the top-selling American poet and he died hundreds of years ago, so it's gotta have something, right? Oh, and about "inshaAllah"...funny story.

My mother and I were watching the Democratic National Convention and Jimmy Carter was speaking. We both were loving his speech and at the end, he said something inspirational, adding, "God willing." My (Catholic) mom turned to me and said, "Did you hear that? Jimmy Carter just said, 'InshaAllah.'"

Ammaarah · 03-30-2005, 11:45 PM

Oh, this is not really a deep question but I'm curious what my Christian cysters have to say about this. I was at Wal-Mart in the Easter candy aisle, and I saw a giant chocolate cross. How do you ladies feel about that? I understand that some folks believe the Christian holidays are getting less and less about Jesus, but hmmm...

Inquiring minds, y'know!

Welcome, Dyonisya!