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Old 11-05-2004, 01:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Just M/C ~ trying to figure it all out....

Hi everyone.....


I recently posted to the pregnancy board, worried I was having a M/C......it turned out I was. We were about 5 weeks pg. I'm trying to sort through all this and have a lot a questions (plus probably a lot of babbling I need to get out...)

My Ob said it was a Chemical PG. Can someone explain to me, in an easy to understand way, what a chemical pregnancy is? The nurse was saying "something was trying to implant, but nothing was there" ....huh? I was too upset at the time to push her for a better explaination. She said bleeding will expel whatever was there, but that at this stage, nothing would be large enough to be visiable.

Secondly, she said I will have the bleeding from the M/C and then have a period before beginning to ovulate again. Is that right? It doesn't sound right to me....anyone know about this?

Third, I did not feel PG at all. No sore bb's, no nausea...nothing at all. With last PG I had 'em all. Plus I've been temping and never got a triphasic chart this time. It makes me think that my hormones just were not up to optimal levels with this one. Sometimes I've heard the term "weak ovulation".....is this related to poor hormone levels? I'm worried I could have a progestorone problem. My O was late in the cyle (day 26) and I didn't have any PMS at all, or any PG symptoms. Sorry this is getting rambly, I'm trying to piece it all together.


I've never had a M/C before this, and I had no idea how heartbreaking it is, even at our early stage of PG. Anyone who has been through this has my utmost respect.

Thanks for listening,

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Old 11-05-2004, 02:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hey, I am so sorry about your loss. I had a m/c at 4wks in Aug so I know exactly how you feel. Basically a chemical pregnancy is when an embryo does attach, but isn't able to grow or sustain itself. That's what I had happen to me. I'm not sure about the period thing. I had the m/c bleed, then just had AF about 2wks ago and am now getting ready for IVF #2.

I know right now you are heartbroken, as you should be, but I promise that in time it will lessen. When it happened to me, I told my husband that I was done with the whole ttc business, but here I am 2mos later and ready to go try again. You will never be "over" it, but the sadness of it will lessen. If youwant someone to talk to who has been there, please pm me!
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Old 11-05-2004, 02:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sharon- First of all {{{HUGS}}}. I am so sorry you are having to go through this.

1. As Amy said a chemical pregnancy attaches, but doesn't dig in all the way.

2. The nurse is wrong about not Oing untill you have another period. You can O as early as 2 weeks after a m/c. Some women even become pregnant again before they have another period.

Even though this was an early loss, it was still a loss. You are intitled to mourn that baby. Cry, be mad, do whatever you feel you need to do. The best advise I received from this board was to first of all name my baby and second write a letter to my baby. I wrote down all my hopes and dreams I had for him/her, I wrote how happy I was to have known him/her and how sad I was to lose him/her. I still read that letter and cry, but it helped me get out so much.

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Old 11-05-2004, 04:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I am so sorry for your loss
I have had a MC at 8 weeks and a MC at 5 weeks...which was also called a chemical MC. The other ladies explained it right.
And I agree, your nurse is wrong about how long it will take to ovulate. I got pg 2 weeks after I MC with my daughter.
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Old 11-05-2004, 06:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Sharon,
I'm very sorry that things are working out this way. It is indeed very hard to endure these losses. I don't know the reasons that we cysters have so many, though these early losses (of which I had one) are often not usually known to the average woman, because they don't watch as closely as we do. Most women would just think they had a strange, late period. It is actually fairly common to have a loss this early and for it to be blamed on chromosomal problems. With PCOS, though, I assume that many of ours are because of hormonal problems.
Please take good care of your heart and your body through this. There will come a time when it is easier to bear. Until then, don't hold back. Women who already have a child know just how wonderful, unique, and valuable each one is to their family, and it is fully appropriate to greive for this tiny one.
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Old 11-05-2004, 07:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm so sorry for your loss {{{{HUGS}}}}

My 1st m/c was a chemical pg so I know how much it hurts. The other ladies are correct on the description. Your nurse is wrong, it is possible to O on your own about 2 weeks after you stop bleeding. The only way to know if you have a progesterone issue or not is to get your P4 taken @ 7DPO, some drs automatically put women on progesterone supps after O as a precaution just in case they have an issue.

I felt very pg w/ my chemical pg but it could have also been b/c I had an hCG shot which brings on pg symptoms. As soon as I got my hCG drawn, my pg symptoms went away & I started spotting that night so I knew it wasn't good. Take time to grieve b/c you were pg & even though it was early, it was still a lose.

I know how hard it is to TTC after a loss & it takes every woman a different amt of time to TTC again but most do try again, some don't & decide to adopt...it's a very personal decision. I've heard from many woman how brave I am to continue to TTC after all my m/c's (4) but I desperatly want at least 1 biological child & after will adopt again if we don't have more than 1. I think that every woman that has even 1 m/c is very brave to TTC again b/c it is hard to let go of that fear which I have never let go of but try to stay positive when & if you do TTC again & take it one day @ a time.

There could be many reasons for a chemical pg but unfortunately there's no way to know what the reason was for it unless you've had multiple m/c's & start testing for RPL (repeat pg loss).

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Sharon....I too want to give you a big {{{{{{{{{{{{HUG}}}}}}}}}}}}}

And I'd also like to second, third and fourth the opinions of the ladies here....It is entirely possible to O soon after a miss......I had mine in Nov of 2000 and became PG again right away the following month before I even had a normal AF......As a matter of fact there was a lot of speculating as to how far along I was because the doctor had no LMP to go by....I had a dating U/S at 7 weeks....and now have a healthy 3 year old boy!

I also agree that it is hard to start TTC again....we didn't waste anytime time starting though....for me the TTC part wasn't hard it was the early pregnancy part that was sooo hard......I could not even enjoy being PG with my son for all the worrying I did.....This time around I was determined to enjoy all of my pregnency and I just told myself what will happen will happpen no matter if I worry or not.....Just keep that in mind for next time and enjoy every little bit of being PG when it happens again.
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Old 11-06-2004, 05:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 11-07-2004, 11:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hi Everyone ~

Thanks everyone for the support, and for helping to answer my questions. And for all the hugs.....it helps to know someone out there understands, although it's sad so many have this knowledge first hand.

Thanks again to everyone, the support is much appreciated (and much needed!)
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