Late Ovulation and Miscarriage

stormspirit · 10-12-2003, 11:23 PM

When I found out I was pregnant I was totally taken by surprise. I had been using a fertility monitor and it showed I didn't ovulate. I ended up ovualating so late that the monitor had stopped testing, and I ended up pregnant. I was so shocked, and thrilled. Well, last week I miscarried and was told that even though there was a sac, there was no fetus. Somewhere there was a problem with the egg or the sperm. I honestly feel that my problem was that I ovulated so late that the egg was defected in some way. Has anyone else noticed this with their own miscarriage?

Leigh Ann

Kaymara · 10-13-2003, 01:49 AM

With my M/c I ovulated I think around day 24. So I did O a little late. I have never been pg before that so I don't know. WIsh I could help you more!

Kay

Louie · 10-13-2003, 12:31 PM

Leigh Ann, sorry about your m/c. ((hugs)). I've had 2, neither of which was a late O, but without meds I always O really late (around CD28) and have never even been able to get pr with these late Os. So I definitely think there is something to the theory that late Os can be poor quality eggs. Still, there are some cysters who have had normal pr with late Os too. So there's no hard and fast rule. My RE says that eggs later than day 19 are less likely to make it.

kcal · 10-13-2003, 01:51 PM

I am sorry for your loss. I have had 2 m/c's and did not ovulate late.

Kim

spookycyster · 10-13-2003, 10:27 PM

Leigh Ann,

I'm so sorry for your loss.

I suspect that my m/c was due to late ovulation. I hadn't had a cycle in 4 months and then I find I'm pregnant. I m/c'd at 6 weeks, but sac only grew to 4 weeks. The only reason why I knew I was pregnant was because I was taking hpt's regularly since I didn't have a reg cycle.

Best of luck to you. ((((((Hugs)))))))

sugarbug · 10-14-2003, 12:39 AM

I ovulated a little late, (cd 18) but I implanted late also (12dpo) and I think it was when I actually implanted that may have caused the problem... That and that I wasn't on progesterone. It's easy to obsess about every little thing that happened, but sometimes there just isn't any one answer.

I'm sorry for your loss

(((hugs)))
BUG

sparrow · 10-14-2003, 01:15 PM

I am sorry for your loss. Both of my m/c were diagnosed as due to late ovulation and a poor quality egg because of the late O. My 2nd loss was a blighted ovum, as you described your loss to be. Fertility drugs are supposed to help us ovulate on a better schedule. I wish you much peace right now and luck for the future.

hilfgirl33 · 10-16-2003, 08:58 PM

Both of my losses were late O's, and both of my children were normal O's (I had dieted and exercised like a fiend after my losses and started ovulating day 15-17).

I asked my RE and he said there is no evidence to prove this theory, but I think it is a real possibility.

Having said that, I see all kinds of women on the boards with late O's and healthy babies. As a matter of fact, my niece who never O's and never gets a period (she hasn't been dx but has PCOS stamped across her forehead), got pregnant and didn't know for 3 months. Her son is now 2-1/2. She hadn't had a period in a year. Talk about late O's!!!

Maybe the odds of miscarrying do become greater with a late O, but still is entirely possible to have a viable pregnancy, too.

stormspirit · 10-17-2003, 12:42 AM

Thanks for all your comments. I knew that there were alot of women out there who had normal pregnancies after a late O, but I wondered how many had actually lost thier baby due to one. I really do think that was what my problem was. I just hope it doesn't happen again.

sugarbug · 10-17-2003, 01:27 PM

This is how it was explained to me- I don't know if it will help, but I know it put my mind at ease. (Caution may be information overload)

When you ovulate your egg only lives for 12-24 hours. It doesn't matter when you ovulate as much as that once you do, you get pregnant within the right time frame, and implant within 5-10 days after ovulation. If you get pregnant with an older egg (over 24 hours) or if you implanted past 10 days you will most likely have a blighted olvum. The only way late ovulations could really pose a problem is if your egg was ready to ovulate earlier but your LH hormone didn't peak at the right time.

An example of that is: When I started getting ultrasounds my follies didn't start growing really until cd12. By cd14 they were normally 16mm- still to small to ovulate even with an LH peak. They grow at a rate of 1-2mm a day, so by cd16/17 they would be large enough to ovulate with a surge, but my LH hormone wasn't in sync with that- so I had to have a trigger shot to ovulate on time.

Several things can make poor egg quality. If you got pregnant after a late ovulation within the time frame, and implanted at the right time- it would have to be the egg itself or the sperm- Nothing to do with the ovulation. You wouldn't have gotten pregnant in the first place if the LH hormone & follie size weren't correct at the time of ovulation- cuz the ovulation would have never happened in the first place.

HTH,
BUG

stormspirit · 10-17-2003, 03:13 PM

sugarbug ~~ Thanks for the info. I use a fertility monitor and it tested for 20 days and went from High to Low with no Peak. I thought the cycle was a bust, but since I'd just had surgery I wasn't really too bummed since we couldn't BD around that time anyway. Well, when AF didn't show up I called and had the doctor order a presricption for Provera. Before I took it I decided to take a HPT and lo and behold it was positive. I had been keeping a calendar of my cycles and when I looked I judged by the days we'd BD and determined that I had O around CD 33 or 35 since those were the ONLY two days that cycle we'd even BDed (due to the laparoscopy and us having to wait 2 weeks). So, all I can figure is my LH was high but never peaked and then dropped down and then came back up again and peaked. Honestly, I was shocked when I found out I was pregnant because we only BDed AFTER the fertility monitor went down to Low. Then I started wondering if I was pregnant BEFORE the surgery, but when my beta came back it was only 33 so I knew I was only a few days or a week or so pregnant. I felt uneasy about it the whole time because it just didn't make sense that my LH would go down and then Peak. Call it women's intuition, but I really doubted that the pregnancy was viable. I guess I should quit obsessing over it and move on, I just want to make sure that if at all possible it doesn't happen again. Thanks again.

Leigh Ann

Nikisix · 10-26-2003, 05:15 AM

Hi,

I know I've read articles saying that it isn't good to ovulate late in your cycle. Which, in my case, happened. I ended up ovulating on cd18. In my 11th week of pregnancy, when I had my 1st u/s, it showed that I had a blighted ovum. Crappy old eggs...

Niki

Louie · 10-27-2003, 12:27 PM

Also, what you described about LH surging and then re-surging for an O, is also not good for the egg. The high LH causes theegg to go through a chemical change and my RE once told me that most embies won't make it if there was a pre-surge elevation in LH.

stormspirit · 10-27-2003, 01:01 PM

Louie~~ Thanks so much for that info. I have never heard that before, and I am pretty sure that's what happened in my case. DH and I have discussed it and decided that when ttc again next cycle we are adding Clomid to try to stop this from happening again.

Like I said before...I was totally shocked to even find out I was pregnant since the FM showed no O. I took many HPT because I just didn't see how it was possible and I just didn't believe it. Deep down I knew that something wasn't right.

Thanks again for the info.

Leigh Ann