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Old 09-22-2005, 09:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have finally hit upon a combination that is working for me!!! I am so excited! I am having blood-tinged EWCM again, which last time I had it was a sure sign of ovulation, and this time, it's WAAAAY early (CD 11-12!) for me!

Here is what I've used/done:
last month I did a "shutdown" (not the full three months because I hadn't been cycling for that long, and had been using NPC all along). During the SD I used licorice tea, NPC, red clover tea, milk thistle, cinnamon and my vites & fish oil.
This month I have been taking (up till now)
-the milk thistle I had left over (6-8 capsules or so)
-red clover tea 2x a day CD 2-7 (soy didn't work for me really so on a whim I thought I'd try this, especially after I might have ovulated on a shutdown cycle from it). It's actually a menopause tea!
-licorice tea 1x a day
-cinnamon
-prenatal + fish oil + B complex

After I confirm O I am going to drop everything except the vitamins & then start using NPC too.
I really, really hope this is truly working. . .keep your fingers crossed for me!
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Old 09-22-2005, 09:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Fingers are crossed!
Im starting 3cycle shutdown when i get AF this time around!I cant wait to get started!
I really hope this combination is it for you and you get pg naturally!!Best of luck!

ps: are you charting/temping?
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Old 09-22-2005, 10:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Alright. Congragulations!!
I love to hear when a cyster has positive results from something she is doing.
Do you do the shutdown AFTER you AF? Or can you start anytime?
Good luck for you, and fingers crossed.
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Old 09-22-2005, 11:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Good luck to you, I hope this is your combo.

**also on another note - is that what it means when you have a lil blood in your EWCM? I have been having that for the past 2 or 3 days - Could it be possible while taking BCP? This is the first month I've taken it (my follistim cycle was cancelled late last month due to too many follies .. so they put me on BCP to help shrink those darn follies and I still have a week to go on the pills - could it be that one "slipped out"...lol) Here's hoping...
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you! I so much hope this is it. .. and my body doesn't start acting weird. I would love to figure this out and do it on my own, rather than have to justify myself to a doctor (mine seems not so hot about taking me back into treatment, because, despite my diagnosis, and my husband's, he seems to think it's all in my head )

Ooh, I don't know what it means if you are on BCP. According to what I read it can be due to the sudden drop in estrogen before ovulation, so I wonder if you're just having breakthrough bleeding? I hope those pills do the trick for you!

I started the shutdown (NPC) after AF stopped (ok, on day 5 actually, I was still having some brown spotting.) This month (not shutdown) I started the herbs as listed above. I actually don't know if you can start anytime, I must have skipped that part because I *do* cycle "regularly". . .it's the ovulating that's the problem for me.

I forgot to add. . .last month I took Saw Palmetto for a while too but stopped because it made me feel weird.

Little Duck. . .I don't chart because my little one wakes me up during the night still. . .it's rare that I get 3 consecutive hours of sleep before I get up for the day. I just check CM and cervical position, it's been relatively reliable for me (AF usually comes 14 days after I think I O'd, if I O'd). There is always the odd patch of EWCM that throws me for a loop but I've always been able to figure things out with the help of the women here!
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Congrat Katja
Im going to start the shutdown next week because all of my herbs are not here yet. I still need to order my fish oil as well. I m glad to know another person have seen improvement on the program and i like when ppls try the natural way instead of rushing into meds. I hope this improvement and hopeful result in pg if thats what you want.

Keep us posted. As for me next week will be my time to keep y'all posted.

My shutdown ingredient consists of
VITEX
HERBAL FIBERLAND
BARLEYGREEN
LICORISE ROOT
NPC
MUTLIVITAMINS
and fish oil if i get round to order it.

Little Duck you decide when you going to start the shutdown?
Stay positive!
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Hey lex I am just waiting on my AF, i started using some npc after i o'ed cd28 but from what i gathered i dont think that it will prevent AF from coming if she is on her way. This is my longest cycle in months!We will prob end up starting same time now!
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Old 09-29-2005, 09:38 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Well it seems that it worked. . .I seem to have O'd on CD 17! That is one of, if not THE, earliest CD I ever ovulated (not medicated). I will have a better idea when I see how long my luteal phase is (and let's hope it's LOOOOOONG)!
I think the red clover/licorice combo is what did the trick for me. So if soy doesn't work this might be something you can try!
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