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Old 03-03-2006, 10:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok cysters, ask away. What do you want to know? What have you heard?

Let me have it! LOL

There is a big thing that I want to discuss here that pertains to marriage and divorce in the Catholic church. I've heard SOOOOO many people say that once their mom/uncle/brother/sister/cousin/whatever divorced, the church they went to threw them out. First, if that did happen, IT'S AGAINST THE TEACHINGS OF THE CHURCH!!! If someone was married in the church and they divorce, they need to seek an annulment so as to wipe the slate clean (so to speak). We are supposed to FORGIVE mistakes.

Now, I realize there are some really rotten members of the clergy out there. Yeah, I've had to deal with them too. But, people aren't supposed to be ex-communicated from the church because of this. If someone has, it's not the faith, it's the person running that particular church.

Second...if parents divorce, the children are NOT considered illegitimate. No child is illegitimate in the eyes of God.

Hmmm....I'm trying to think of anything else here...

Well, let me know what you're questions are, OK?
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Old 03-03-2006, 10:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Some good starters, Stacie love, might be tackling the questions "Are Catholics Christian?" and "Do you guys worship Mary?"

(I know the answers but I'm just throwing them out there because those are two common misconceptions about Catholics.)
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I've got one: please explain transubstantiation to me.

Is it really part of Catholic philosophy that the bread and wine of communion become the body and blood of Christ? Or is "This my body..." considered a metaphor and the bread and wine considered symbolic? Or is it just that Christ is present in all things including the bread and wine of communion?

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I've got one: please explain transubstantiation to me.

Is it really part of Catholic philosophy that the bread and wine of communion become the body and blood of Christ? Or is "This my body..." considered a metaphor and the bread and wine considered symbolic? Or is it just that Christ is present in all things including the bread and wine of communion?
I will be interested to hear this. My Catholic husband was raised to believe it BECOMES the body and blood of Christ, but a Catholic friend says that's not true. Maybe it's different in different churches?

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I will be interested to hear this. My Catholic husband was raised to believe it BECOMES the body and blood of Christ, but a Catholic friend says that's not true. Maybe it's different in different churches?

TIA!

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I don't think you can really "be" Catholic and not believe it's really the blood/body of Christ. Catholics believe it IS the real thing.

I agree, the Mary-worship is a good topic. It had me conflicted for a long time, but here's the deal. You are not praying for Mary to grant your wishes, like she's a genie, or God. You are asking her to pray FOR you, to intercede on your behalf. It's like you ask a friend (or a cyster ) to pray for you, you ask the same of Mary. You don't worship Mary.
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Stacie, I'm so glad you managed to get this thread going! I know I'll have plenty of q's.

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I agree, the Mary-worship is a good topic. It had me conflicted for a long time, but here's the deal. You are not praying for Mary to grant your wishes, like she's a genie, or God. You are asking her to pray FOR you, to intercede on your behalf. It's like you ask a friend (or a cyster ) to pray for you, you ask the same of Mary. You don't worship Mary.
I always wondered about that! It's the same as praying to the saints isn't it? You ask them to pray for you right?
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Hey ladies,

Sorry it took me a while to get back here...I have to think of the best way to answer the questions so that it's understandable.

As for the Bread/Wine becoming Jesus body and blood. You can't be a Catholic without believing it. If someone doesn't believe it, they aren't a true Catholic (whether they attend church regularly or not). It's considered to be one of the great mysteries of our faith. I can't really explain that one so you all can understand, it's just one of those things you have to believe in.

Back to the Mary thing...Sari explained it GREAT! I also have to add...it's the same thing with the Saints. We don't worship saints, we ask for them to intercede on our behalf. We ask for them to pray for us. It's like asking a dead relative to put in a good word to God for you. I hope that makes sense.

As Ammaarah suggested...Are we Catholics Christians? Heck yeah! (Ok, I'm saying this giggling...it's not meant to offend). We're the "original" Christians. The Catholic faith is the oldest of the Christian faiths. The orthodox Christian faiths came after the Catholic faith (Greek orthodox, Russian orthodox) THEN came all the other protestant Christian faiths.

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Okay here's a question about lent. Lent is 40 days. But if you count from Ash Wednesday to Easter Sunday it is 46 days.

Dh said he heard them talking about this on the radio that some Churches don't count the Sundays. That you take that day off.

So does that mean if you gave something up for Lent you don't have to on Sundays?
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Nope, if you give something up for Lent, it's for the entire SEASON of lent (which is basically how it's considered). After Easter, it's fine to go back to that which you've given up.

Someone on another thread brought up "salvation". Ok I know that born-again folks believe that they can be saved by accepting Christ as their savior and by being baptised. It's not like that for us Catholics. Salvation is a life-long thing for us. We must ALWAYS work towards salvation.
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I've been lurking around all the misconceptions boards for a while, so I thought I'd throw out a few questions

Could you explain what the rites are that Catholics are supposed to do and why they are important? I had a roommate who was raised Catholic and she said that there are things like baptism and last rites that Catholics need to do but I was never really sure why. I think there are seven of them?

Could you explain a little more about how Catholics become saved (I think those two questions might be related)? How is it different from the Protestant idea? I know that Protestants generally say that you have to ask Jesus to be your savior and depending on the denomination, you might have to get baptised. What do Catholics need to do?
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Hi ladies,
Wanted to jump in here. I LOVE talking about the Catholic faith.
For the 40 days of Lent - I do take Sundays off. Either practice is fine. Neither is the "right" way to do it.
Praying to Mary and the Saints. We do NOT worship Mary and the Saints. We revere them, and Mary more so than any others. She is worthy of a type of praise as her one little yes changed the course of history. So we have some flowery language for some of our Marian prayers. But it doesn't compare to our reverence and worship of the Lord. When we pray to Mary, we are asking her to pray for us. It's kind of like going to Mom first to ask Dad to do something for you. She tends to be more persuasive. The saints are presently in the glory of the presence of God, so just in a case of proximity it's great to ask for them to pray for you.
Stacie is absolutely right about Catholic thought on Salvation. If someone asks me if I've been saved, I usually say I'm in the process of being saved. You still sin after you accept the Lord so your journey is constantly falling, asking the Lord to pick you back up (forgiveness) and try to go longer before you fall again.
Transubstantiation - the most important aspect of our faith is the Eucharist. When a properly ordained priest prays the consecration, the bread and wine CEASE to be bread and wine and become the body and blood of Christ. They retain the outward appearance (called "accidents") of bread and wine but they aren't. That's why it is so important to be in a state of grace when receiving Communion - you are touching and consuming THE Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ. Our limited human brains really can't wrap around this, that's why it's called faith.
Divorce is not a sin. It actually doesn't matter b/c it means nothing to the Church. What God has united, no man can separate. The Church does not recognize civil divorces. The sin comes when you remarry without an annulment - you are still married in the eyes of God. An annulment is a process that looked at the marriage and said there was obstacles or things that made it invalid like wrong form thereby nullifying the words of the ceremony.
Unfortunately, the Church has been plagued of late with a few (but very vocal) clergy who do NOT represent the Church and Church teachings. That (and this age of evil relativism) has spurned the Cafeteria Catholic who will take what they like and then disagree with other teachings. If you disagree with the Church fine, then don't call yourself Catholic. Go form your own church. You CAN'T be pro-abortion and Catholic. You CAN'T be Catholic and not believe the Eucharist is the true Body and Blood of Christ. This is just like you can't be a vegetarian and eat McDonald's hamburgers - you're lying.
Hope that helps, I'm glad to answer any more Catholic questions.
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Amanda -
The word you're looking for is sacraments. In the Catholic Church there are 7 Sacraments - baptism, reconciliation, communion, confirmation, marriage, holy orders (ordination), annointong of the sick - formerly called Last Rites. Last rites are not only given when death is imminent, I've received them every time I was hospitalized. I thought it was funny when the news outlets were saying JPII has received annointing of the sick, he must be close to death! He probably received it every time he sneezed. Sacraments are efficacious signs of God's Love, or an outward sign of an inward grace. Baptism, confirmation, and Holy Orders you only receive once (and holy orders only if you become a priest), marriage and annointing maybe more than once but communion and reconciliation, the more you receive it the better! The more grace you receive from God.
I hope I answered your salvation question in my previous post.
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Thanks Kara--that's what I meant

I have another question--what is purgatory? My impression has been it's somewhere you go if you can't come into Heaven yet. Why do people go there and do they ever get out? Most people where I grew up were Protestant so I'm not very familiar with things that are different between Protestants and Catholics.

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