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Old 01-02-2009, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello group, I have PCOS and was diognosed probly 6 yrs ago or so. I am 30yrs ald and my husband is 34. WE really want kids but I cant afford the laser surgery the Dr. recomended. SO I did my own little bit of reaserch and decided to go to the Dr to try a few things, First off I asked ofr Metformin and then also asked for Birth Controle. I have a period once every 18-24 months so Figured the Bith controle would hopefully help me cycle and the metformin since I have read it works wounders on PCOS.

My plansa re to quit the birth controle in 3-4 months and hopefully I will still cycle. I dont know that it will work but Im willing to try. Any advise is appreciated. Anyone go this rout?
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Hi Honey, as far as my research goes bc pills actually make PCOS worse in the long run.. What are your hormone levels like? test? estrogen? prost.?

Here are a few things you can try:
Change your diet! It places a huge factor in PCOS... There is a book called the Fertility Diet, it can help you

Cut out all soda, chips, cookies, pizza proccessed foods, white rice, white bread etc.

Eat only Organic (reg food has hormones in it, which can mess up PCOS even more) Whole Milk, High Fiber Cereal, LOTS OF VEGGIES- Try eating Greek Salad for lunch everday -- Argula, Lettuce, Tomatoes, Black Olives, Feta Cheese, Mustard Greens.. No salad dressing (too much sugar and soduim) make your own out of Olive Oil, Lemons and Hummus, Eat Salmon, lean meats like turkey, eggs and nuts, cut carbs only eat it if it's whole grains or buckwheat..

Supplements:
Flaxseed Oil w/ Ligans
Apple Cider Vinegar for insulin resistance -- (Like Melf. it helps control blood sugar levels, you can add into your salads)
Women's Toner Tea - Good for Uterus and lowers androgens which are usually elevated in PCOS women
Women's Liberty Tea- Balances Hormones naturally
Maca - Balances Hormones
Sage - Balances hormones, raises estrogen and prost. levels, also controls blood sugar
NAC
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SO should I just stop the BC pills now? I have only been on them for 2 weeks, I have 1 weeek left of the yellow pills then a week of the white ones.

And oh boy on the foods, I like salads but I always use ranch dressing, please give me a good recipie to make my own dressing, this will sure be an adjustment. Also anyway to disguise viniger? I hate it...lol.

I am currently taking 2000mg of flaxseed oil and 4000mg of fish oil a day as well as a One Daily Womens vitamin. I will try to find the others and add them to my morning ration but what is NAC and Maca? I am poor so I shop at walmart, can I get these there?
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Personally I would finish the cycle.. but CHECK with your doctor.. Only he or she can tell you what to do with medication..

This website lists natural alternatives for PCOS.. I'm going to post the information for you..

Site: http://www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com/nac.html
What is NAC?

NAC (n-acetyl-cysteine) is a stable derivative of the amino acid cysteine, which has antioxidant properties and is required for the body's production of glutathione. Glutathione, along with NAC, are powerful antioxidants. Adequate antioxidants are essential for protecting your cells from damanage. NAC is also very good at helping you get rid of toxins in your body.
NAC is not found in the diet but is available as a nutritional supplement. It is also available as a FDA-approved prescription drug.
NAC is commonly used for these health problems: liver toxicity, acetaminophen poisoning, chemotherapy, detoxification, respiratory problems, heart disease, gallstones, and excess mucus production.
However, NAC also has some value for polycystic ovarian syndrome.
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NAC Improves Insulin Sensitivity in Women with PCOS

Insulin resistance, the inability to efficiently utilize the hormone insulin, is thought to be a primary cause of polycystic ovary syndrome. Although not every woman with PCOS has an insulin problem, the majority probably do. Therefore, anything that helps to normalize insulin is worth considering.
A recent study(1) evaluated the effect of NAC on insulin secretion and insulin resistance in 6 lean and 31 obese women women with polycystic ovary syndrome. They took 1.8 grams of NAC daily for 5-6 weeks. A dose of 3 grams per day was arbitrarily chosen for the massively obese. Six of the 31 obese patients were treated with placebo.
Those treated with NAC had a reduction of their insulin resistance and a significant fall in testosterone levels.
Although this is a small study, it suggests that NAC can play a role in improving your insulin sensitivity. Many of you are taking metformin for the same purpose. Improved insulin sensitivity is crucial to reversing PCOS.
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Homocysteine and NAC

Women with polycystic ovarian syndrome are often prescribed the drug metformin (Glucophage) to deal with their insulin problems. One of the problems with metformin is that it has a tendency to increase homocysteine levels. And, in general, PCOS women have higher homocysteine levels than normal women.
Homocysteine is an amino acid in the blood. A normal amount is OK. But an elevated level means that your metabolic processes are not working properly. Elevated homocysteine is associated with coronary artery disease, heart attack, chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, cognitive impairment, and cervical cancer.
Another medical study (2) showed that people taking NAC for two months had a significant decrease in homocysteine levels. Higher doses were more effective than lower doses.
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NAC May Improve Fertility

If you are having fertility problems, your doctor may have prescribed a the drug clomiphene or "Clomid" in order to induce ovulation. However, some women are "resistant" to Clomid and it does not work.
A very interesting study(3) of 150 Clomid-resistant women with PCOS has shown that NAC appears to make Clomid more effective. The women were dividied into two groups. One group took Clomid and NAC. The other group took Clomid and a placebo.
In the NAC group, 49.3% ovulated and 1.3% became pregnant. In contrast, in the placebo group, only 21.% ovulated and there were no pregnancies.
In another study of 573 women with polycystic ovary syndrome, Clomid plus NAC was used in one group, and Clomid alone was used in another group.(4)
The ovulation rate improved significantly after the addition of NAC. In the group taking Clomid plus NAC, 52% ovulated whereas in the Clomid alone group 18% ovulated.
The study's authors concluded: "N-Acetyl cysteine is proved effective in inducing or augmenting ovulation in polycystic ovary patients."
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NAC Provides Antioxidant Protection

NAC is a well-known antioxidant, meaning it protects cells from being damaged by free radical molecules.
An increasing body of evidence indicates that women with polycystic ovarian syndrome have greater oxidant stress and lower antioxidant levels, thus reducing their ability to control inflammation and prevent cell damage.
Chronic inflammation and oxidant stress make PCOS symptoms worse and tend to reduce fertility. We discuss this problem extensively in our book, The Natural Diet Solution for PCOS and Infertility.
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NAC and Pregnancy Problems

We hope you are not exposed to second hand cigarette smoke or other pollutants that could harm your unborn child. If you think you may be exposed to any kind of environmental toxins or pollution, consider taking NAC.
The are a number of animal studies showing the NAC protects the unborn fetus from damage from toxins. For example, a study from Kocaeli University in Turkey exposed pregnant rats to cigarette smoke.(5) One group was given NAC and one group was not. In the mother rats not protected by NAC, the fetuses had significant lung damage whereas much of this damage was prevented in the fetuses of the NAC-treated rats.
We also hope that you do not take unnecessary drugs or take excessive dosages of drugs during pregnancy. For example, acetaminophen (Tylenol) is the most common drug overdose in pregnancy. NAC has been shown to reduce the toxicity of such overdoses.(6)
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Safety

NAC is considered safe.
Although NAC has not been shown to have any adverse effect on the fetus, you should check with your doctor before taking NAC if you are pregnant. Do not take NAC while also taking nitroglycerin.
Before taking NAC in combination with metformin, check with your doctor. If you are taking a substantial dose of NAC, you may need to reduce the dosage of metformin.
Very high doses of NAC may cause some nausea or gastrointestinal problems in a few people.
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How Much Should You Take?

We do not recommend that you start using NAC at the 1.8-3 gram (1,800 - 3,000 milligrams) dose range cited in one of the studies above. However, up to 600 milligrams per day would be a starting point.
Consult with a qualified physician as to whether a higher dose is appropriate for you, especially if you are taking metformin.


Maca Root: http://macaroot.com/ -- It acts as a hormonal regulator that will bring your body to its proper balance, this site has all the info


I'm not sure whether or not you can get them at Wal - Mart, but you can check Also try health food stores..

As far as salad dressing, I just mix olive oil, lemons, garlic & salt... I know how you feel I love ranch dressing too, maybe if you have an organic grocery close by you can find a low fat?

Apple Cider Vinegar has shown to help w/ insulin problems with women suffering from PCOS.. I just add a little to my salads.. This isn't the only natural remedy for it though.. Sage also lowers blood sugar levels and their is a natural alternative to Melf. as well.. Also eating a low carb / low sugar diet can also help with insulin problems..

Come to the natural alternatives section, you can find plenty of info there

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