I have a few questions about Nioxin. First, I have no idea what to buy! There seem to be so many different products in this line and I don't know which one will address my problem which is thinning hair and loss of hair. Could anyone post a link to the correct product? I would appreciate it.
Also, if I decide to start Nioxin am I on it for life? It was my understanding that if you started Rogaine you could never stop using it or your hair would fall out again. Is it the same with Nioxin? Can I just use it until my hormones are more under control?
Any advice would be appreciated. These waters are hard to navigate.
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Nioxin is not like rogaine,you can stop using it at any time,and it wont have any lasting consequences on your hair.Unless its helping and you stopped using it and
your problem went back to the same level as before.
I personally do not use Nioxin at this time,I have tried it in the past,it works for some people and not for others,you have to give it a test trial,it is a proffessional product,and it is definately worth a shot.
I am looking into some natural shampoos for hairloss at this time,and will be experimenting with them in the future.
As for natural shampoos and conditioners, I have been using J/A/S/O/N's Thin-to-Thick shampoo and conditioner. I don't believe it targets DHT however. The bottle says it helps decrease hairloss and make remaining hair look thicker but I am not sure through mechanism of action. It doesn't contain sodium laurel sulfate however so at least that is one step in the right direction. Problem is it does not make my naturally curly hair look very good. It frizzes it out.
I saw this product when I was in the health food store and decided to give it a try. It wasn't that expensive.
But I will check out that website and thank you for pointing me in the right direction!
i have used nioxin off and on for a couple of years now...i think i can tell a difference, i also think that when i don't use it i notice more hair coming out in the shower. my hairdresser who i see a couple times a year can tell a difference and we took a picture before and after (he's in san antonio, too expensive to go to really often, and i get my hair cut when i go see my parents once a month or so--but when i want something different or my gabriel fix, i go to san antonio)
i usually get it at trade secret in the mall or ulta. ts has a card that you can get stamped for the dollar amt you spend and when it is full you get a certain amount off,i think ulta does as well...more importantly, they both run the nioxin line on sale at least once a month or so...
good luck whatever you do.....Lisa
I have been using nioxin since august and it really really helped. once you get the hormones under control you could quit using it, it doesn't do like rogaine. But even after it is a really good shampoo and conditioner, even for dry scalp or dry skin as a body wash. I started out using the cleanser(shampoo) and scalp therapy(conditioner) and then added the scalp treatment. If you have colored or permed hair get the Protectives lines or if not then just get the actives line. Good Luck!
PS: I also have natural wavy/curly hair and the Nioxin products do pretty well!
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It hasn't done anything for my hairloss, either way over the years, but IMO it's an easy wash-rinse shampoo. In other words, it suds up bigtime but still rinses out well and completely. I'm trying the "textured/curly" hair Nioxin shampoo & conditioner now (new, in gray-brown bottles) and like it better...it doesn't smell as mediciney and it makes my hair supersoft. Just my two cents. They have Nioxin for coloured/processed hair too I think.
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It really helped with my hair loss, my hair quit fallling out as bad and after a month I had new hair growing. And I still use it so it is still growing. Plus, I think it may make my hair grow a little faster. Usually it takes forever for my hair to get 'past the shoulders' point. I have had a lot of clients that have tried it. I guess it depends on how bad the hairloss is, but even if it slows the shedding it is worth it. I tried the new line for coarse, curly hair too, but I think my hair does better with the actives line. The smoothing line works good too. It does smell better. And it has styling products for frizz!
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What is the deal with sodium laurel sulfate? Is that bad for us in shampoo? Does it make the hair fall out or something? I have never heard of this but I am pretty sure my shampoos contain it.
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I think it is just very drying but I am not really sure. I just read on this board once that it was not a good idea to use a product containing it if you had thinning hair. I just did a quick google search on SLS and apparently there has been speculation that it causes cancer and is toxic but none of that has been proven.
I don't have a lot of time to research it right now but I always recommend going to www.google.com and doing a search for anything questions you may have. Maybe you can dig up some good info for others with the same question!
Scientists Warn of harmful Ingridients in our shampoos
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What is the deal with sodium laurel sulfate? Is that bad for us in shampoo? Does it make the hair fall out or something? I have never heard of this but I am pretty sure my shampoos contain it.
Dangerous Beauty
Scientists Warn Of Harmful Ingredients In Our Shampoos and Cosmetics
by David Lowell Kern
New health concerns are being raised over some common ingredients in hair shampoos, skin creams, toothpaste, and other personal care products. According to researchers in the United States, Germany, Switzerland, and Japan, these ingredients may be linked to premature baldness, cataract fort nation, environmental cancers, contact dermatitis, and possible eye damage in young children
SLS and Eye Damage in Young Children
The greatest concern of many scientists is sodium lauryl suirare, a detergent found in approximately 90% of commercial shampoos. Also known as sodium dodecyl sulfate (SDS), sodium laureth sulfate (SLES), and sodium laurel sulfate (SLS), this chemical has been shown to damage protein formation in eye tissue in young animals, raising serious concerns about the possibility of ocular tissue malformation and blindness in infants and young children. In animal studies, SLS penetration and uptake is much greater in neonatal and young animal eye tissue, compared to adult animals, and shows "penetration into the eye, as well as systemic tissues (brain, heart, liver, etc.). SLS also showed long-term retention in tissues, up to five days after a single drop.
Researcher Keith Green, Ph.D., D. Sc., of the Medical College of Georgia, also reports that SLS extends the healing time of corneal tissue by a factor of five, from the normal 2 days to 10 days or more. He also expresses concerns about cataract formation from SLS. Writing for Research to Prevent Blindness, Inc., Dr. Green states in part: "There is an immediate concern relating to the penetration of these chemicals into the eye and other tissues. This is especially important in infants, exposure to SLS results in accumulation in eye tissues, a process that could retard healing as well as potentially have long-term effects." Dr. Green concludes that exposure to sodium lauryl sulfate causes improper eye development in children, and that since SLS is absorbed systemically through the skin, it does not have to enter tile eye directly.
Our own research has revealed that SLS is present as a main ingredient in most commercial shampoos. Furthermore, SLS is a main ingredient in most baby shampoos on the store shelves.
SLS Toxicity and Cancer
Another serious health concern with SLS is its tendency to react with other ingredients to form NDELA, a nitrosamine and potent carcinogen. According to a 1978 FDA report, shampooing the hair with a product contaminated with this nitrosamine can lead to its absorption into the body at levels much higher than eating nitrate-contraindicated foods. (Researchers actually estimate the nitrate absorption from one shampoo is equal to eating a pound of bacon.) The FDA has recently warned shampoo manufacturers of unacceptable levels of dioxin formation in
Products containing SLES (dioxins arc also dangerous carcinogenic compounds). Whether or not a particular bottle of shampoo is contaminated with these powerful carcinogenic compounds can only be determined through laboratory testing.
Damage to Your Skin
Researchers have known for years that SLS is a skin irritant. In fact, SLS is used as a laboratory standard for irritating skin and inducing contact dermatitis SLS is useful in laboratory testing "because of its ability to penetrate and impair the skin barrier"."' SLS damages skin barrier function"', enhances allergic response to other toxins and allergens"', damages and alters skin cells"', causes substantial roughness in the skin"', and results in severe modification of skin recombinant structure"".
SLS is listed as toxic to skin in many steadied'"'""'. In patients with seborrhea and eczema, SLS increases reactions and susceptibility"". SLS is indicated in the migration of Langerhans cells to regional lymph sites in contact dermatitis, explaining the inflammation of the lymph nodes in some cases. (A systemic response is clearly indicated.) Researchers have also reported that fair skin is more susceptible to SLS irritation, is skin with existing eczema- even where the eczema is not local to the SLS contact"".
Toxic Toothpaste
With the volumes of scientific information regarding the toxic, carcinogenic, and other harmful effects of sodium Lauryl sulfate presented (we have listed only a fraction here), it should be clear that this chemical does not belong on the skin. Unfortunately, SLS is as common as it is dangerous. A review of commercial tooth pastes revealed only one major brand that does not contain this ingredient (Sensodyne). All other tooth pastes we received have SLS as a major ingredient.
The health risk this represents can be easily understood when several factors arc taken into account: the rapid uptake and systemic penetration 0f SLS, the long-term tissue retention in the heart, liver, and brain, and the fact that the gums are one of the quickest ways to introduce substances into tile bloodstream, bypassing the digestive tract. The only tiling that is difficult to understand is why this chemical is still used as an ingredient in any product designed for skin contact.
SLS and Premature Hair Loss
SLS is implicated in premature hair loss in men and women, and may be one reason for widespread incidence of thinning hair. Because SLS is such a caustic cleanser, it actually corrodes the hair follicle and impairs its ability to grow hair. SLES (sodium lauryl ether sulfate) causes dramatic decline in the hair growth cycle, and prolongs the hair loss phase (normally 3 months) by a factor of eight. Simply removing this ingredient and it's corrosive and irritating effects, begins to restore the natural, healthy function of the hair follicle.
SLS is also implicated in scalp irritation, eczema, dandruff; And other scalp conditions. Many shampoos designed to
Alleviate dandruff, itching, and other scalp disorders may actually be causing the problems they are supposed to eliminate, because of the toxicity of SLS-containing formulas to the skin and scalp. Avoiding contact with this cytotoxic (cell killing) chemical is all many people need to completely alleviate scalp disorders.
"Natural" Brands Offer No Protection
Ingredient reviews of shampoos sold in health food stores under "natural" brands and labels have turned up many formulas containing SLS. The cost, reputation, or market position of the shampoo apparently has little to do with its contents. Some of the most reputable and exclusive brands contain SLS. Don't be fooled by high prices or marketing hype you must check the ingredients on each product if you want to avoid the harmful effects of SLS.
Propylene Glyco More Health Concerns
Another common ingredient in many beauty creams, cleansers, makeup, and other cosmetics is propylene glycol. This chemical is used in industry as antifreeze, airplane deicer, and brake fluid; it is also used in thousands of cosmetic preparations as a delivery vehicle and solvent.
When you purchase a drum of propylene glycol from a supplier, that supplier is required to furnish an MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet). The MSDS for propylene glycol says
"Avoid skin contact." We are amazed to find this same product in most skin creams on the market.
Recent findings indicate that propylene glycol has severe adverse health effects, and has been found to cause contact dermatitis, ototoxicity, kidney damage, and liver abnormalities in various clinical human and animal studies. The effects of propylene glycol are clearly more than skin deep. Propriety glycol has shown measurable toxicity to human cells in culture"", It has been shown to inhibit skin cell growth in human tests, and cell respiration in animal tests" When tested in guinea pigs and chinchillas, ear drops containing propylene glycol caused irreversible deafness, tissue and bone degradation, and morphological changes to the middle ear(. I. Propylene glycol caused mytotoxic (skeletal muscular damage) effects in rats" " and rabbits). PG is reported to directly alter cell membranes, to cause contact allergies and dermatitis to cause skin thickening and skin dehydration amid chronic surface damage.
Propylene glycol poisoning has been reported to induce seizures and cardio respiratory arrest' "3".
One study "advise(s) caution when propylene glycol is employed as a vehicle in clinical use' ', in another study on PG
Researchers
Ingestion in cats, reported encephalopathy. Depression and ataxia. Similarities of PG absorption in cats and humans were noted and the report slated: 'these findings are significant not only for animals ingesting diets which contain propylene glycol, but for humans who receive propylene glycol-containing medications.
PG and Premature Skin Aging
The science of skin biology has advanced substantially since propylene glycol was first introduced to cosmetics over 30 years ago, and yet PG is still the major ingredient in most skin creams, regardless of cost, market share, or "natural" claims. New findings suggest that using PG and other occlusive (filming) ingredients on the skin actually ages the skin prematurely. Estimates are that skin ages at least 13 years for every 10 years these types products arc used.
Fortunately, products are now being developed based on scientific breakthroughs to reverse environmental and aging damage to the skin, and to support the biology of the skin as a living organ. This approach is returning rapid results iii skin healing, wrinkle diminishment, and other problems of aging skin (sagging skin, eye bags, etc.).
You won't find these products in department stores any time soon, however. Many formulas with these new and often exotic ingredients are exclusive to a single manufacturer, and the expense of these breakthroughs is prohibitive for the major manufacturers. Fortunately, there are independent manufacturers beginning to bring these advances to market.
What You Should Do:
Check your shampoos, toothpaste, liquid soaps, body gels, and other skin products for sodium lauryl sulfate. We recommend that you avoid any further skin contact with products containing this ingredient.
If you have children, make sure they are not using shampoos and tooth pastes containing sodium lauryl sulfate. Children under 6 are especially vulnerable to improper eye development. Also check sun block products. (We found one that contains SLS and aluminum, a potentially dangerous combination for brain cell deterioration).
Replace products containing SLS with safer alternatives (formulas without SLS).
Check all your cosmetic products for propylene glycol, and get them off your skin. It' you have infants, check your baby wipes and baby lotions, and find alternative products that are for sale for children (some baby wipes are available with aloe instead of propylene glycol).
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