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Please tell me if NIOXIN works for you -- now, some years after this post. Any other ideas for balding patches? Sent with blessings
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Thanks everyone for all of your suggestions. I tried the Neutrogena T-Sal & Nizarol soaking method last week (15 mins of each) and so far, it is working. Usually, my scalp would have been on fire days ago, but lately it's been cool. None of that intense burning and itching I usually feel - even with the Rx my dermatologist gave me. I also just bought some Biotin to go along with my multivitamins. I plan to get some Vitex too, but I'm still shopping around for a lower price.
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Probably two months or so. Remember, it takes a while for hair to grow and be visible. Did I get it all back? No, but I saw a few dozen hairs peek through after six weeks or so. I also leave it on for a minute or so before rinsing. That makes my hair feel a little drier, so I run Pantene's Breakage Defense conditioner through before or after (my hair is fine and breaks easily along the shaft, too).
Cameryn-- I highly recommend finding a different conditioner. Pantene has something in it that can make your hair fall out. At one point in time I used Pantene and my scalp would bleed and hair would fall out. I know other people, like my cousin who does not have any health issues at all, who had the same experience. It was my mom who figured out the Pantene was the problem.
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Old 03-20-2009, 12:45 PM   #154 (permalink)
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I've used Nizoral for years because of my Psoriasis. But it causes hair loss on your head. I never had a problem with the hair loss until I started taking Metformin ER. Then I was losing hair left and right. I should probably go back to my dr because I'm losing too much hair on my head.

I'm not sure if this post was telling us to use it on our excess hair areas or not. I believe the shampoo wants you to leave it on for at least a minute. Do you suggest it for excess hair areas? I'm a little confused.
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I just bought some this week. It says to just use it twice a week? For the first week, and then once a week from there on. Should I be using it everyday? What do you guys do?
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I believe the Nizoral is used 2 times a week. It is not used everyday by most people.
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Old 06-11-2009, 01:26 AM   #157 (permalink)
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Nizoral 2% is by prescription in the USA. I think it may be OTC in other countries. The 1% is OTC in the states.
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The unfortunate thing about hair regrowth is the extent of time needed to actually regrow the hair. It took only a couple months to thin, but the rebuilding process is a 6 month to 2 year journey.
Here is a regrowth protocol that will help regrow hair. Its not easy, but it will help.
the results will vary from person to person. If some one actually has the discipline to follow this protocol, they will see results. good luck

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B complex (50 mg)
B12 (500 mcg twice or one time release 1000 mcg that Country Life sells)
Aloe 3 times (1 oz)
Protein 9/10th g per kg of body wt (Nutibiotic rice protein is good)
6 glasses of dark green vegetable juice or 6 scoops of chlorophyll rich powder throughout the day.

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Sea Vegetables (1 serving)
Flaxseed oil (1 tablespoon_
Evening Primrose (500 mg)
Choline and Inositol (500 mg daily)
PABA (100 mg)
Folic Acid (400 mcg)
Biotin (500 mcg)

Stage 3 Protocol for 3rd 3 months

Sea Vegetable (1 serving)
Zinc (50 mg)
L-Cysteine (500 mg twice)
Evening Primrose (300 mg twice)
Panothenic acid (100 mg twice)
Vitamin E (400 IU)
Co Enzyme Q10 (100 mg twice)
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Folic acid (800 mcg)
6 glasses of dark green vegetable juice or 3 glasses dark green vegetable juice and 3 glasses of green plant extract, or 6 scoops of chlorophyll rich
powder.

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PABA (500 mg)
Panothenic acid (500 mg)
Garlic (1,000 mg)
Onion (1,000 mg)
Biotin (500 mcg)
Choline (1,000 mg)
Inositol (1,000 mg)
Niacin (250 mg)
Borage oil (500 mg)
Omega 3 oil (1,000 mg)
Cayenne (5 mg)
Protein (9/10) per kg of body weight
6 glasses of dark green vegetable juice or 3 glasses of dark green juice and 3 scoops of plant extract or 6 scoops of chlorophyll rich powder.

Please remember that you have to flood your body with chlorophyll. If you add chlorella and maca to the mix you should see faster results. Also, IC3 should be a standard in your supplementation if it isn't already. Start with one a day, before bed, and work your way up to 3 a day by the third month.
Where did you get your information? Do you have sources? Just wondering about the science behind it.
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Where did you get your information? Do you have sources? Just wondering about the science behind it.
That person hasn't been online since December. But I'd like to know, too...

I only did a very quick web search, and found this post from another message board. Maybe it has some clues?

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/for...ad.php?t=21208
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That's so funny.

I started taking chlorella because of reading this message board!
(very rich source of chlorophyll)

Can't say if it's having any effect one way or another though.
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Nizoral Fact Sheet from Canada.com

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Nizoral Shampoo (ketoconazole topical)

DIN (Drug Identification Number)

02182920 NIZORAL 2% SHAMPOO


How does Nizoral Shampoo work? What will it do for me?

Ketoconazole belongs to the family of medications called antifungals. It is used to treat fungal infections of the skin (ringworm, athlete's foot, and jock itch) and nails. It is also used to treat "sun fungus" (tinea versicolor, pityriasis versicolor). The shampoo is used to treat and prevent conditions such as dandruff and seborrheic dermatitis.
Your doctor may have suggested this medication for conditions other than the ones listed in these drug information articles. If you have not discussed this with your doctor or are not sure why you are taking this medication, speak to your doctor. Do not stop taking this medication without consulting your doctor.
Do not give this medication to anyone else, even if they have the same symptoms as you do. It can be harmful for people to take this medication if their doctor has not prescribed it.

How should I use Nizoral Shampoo?

Ketoconazole cream: The cream is usually applied once daily to the affected and immediate surrounding area for a treatment period of 2 to 6 weeks, depending on condition being treated. For treatment of seborrheic dermatitis, the cream is usually used twice daily for 4 weeks.
Ketoconazole shampoo: Apply 5 mL to 10 mL to the wet scalp, work into a lather, and leave on for 3 to 5 minutes before rinsing with water. Take care to keep the shampoo out of the eyes and off the eyelids. If contact occurs, flush the eyes thoroughly with water. If using as a treatment, apply twice weekly for 2 to 4 weeks. If using as a preventative measure, apply once every 1 to 2 weeks.
Many things can affect the dose of a medication that a person needs, such as body weight, other medical conditions, and other medications. If your doctor has recommended a dose different from the ones listed here, do not change the way that you are taking the medication without consulting your doctor.
It is important that this medication be taken exactly as prescribed by your doctor. If you miss a dose, take it as soon as possible and continue with your regular schedule. If it is almost time for your next dose, skip the missed dose and continue with your regular dosing schedule. Do not take a double dose to make up for a missed one.
This medication is available under multiple brand names and in several different forms. Any specific brand name of this medication may not be available in all of the forms listed here. The forms available for the specific brand you have searched are listed under "What form(s) does this medication come in?"
Do not dispose of medications in wastewater (e.g. down the sink or in the toilet) or in household garbage. Ask your pharmacist how to dispose of medications that are no longer needed or have expired.


What form(s) does Nizoral Shampoo come in?

Each mL of pink-orange, viscous shampoo contains ketoconazole 2% (20 mg/g). Nonmedicinal ingredients: cocamide DEA, disodium laureth sulfosuccinate, FD&C Red No. 3, fragrance, hydrochloric acid, imidazolidinyl urea, laurdimonium hydrolyzed collagen, methyl glucose dioleate, sodium chloride, sodium hydroxide, sodium laureth sulfate and water.
Some medications may have other generic brands available. Always ask your doctor or pharmacist about the safety of switching between brands of the same medication.

Who should NOT take Nizoral Shampoo?

Ketoconazole should not be used by anyone who is allergic to ketoconazole or any of the ingredients of the medication.


What side effects are possible with Nizoral Shampoo?

Many medications can cause side effects. A side effect is an unwanted response to a medication when it is taken in normal doses. Side effects can be mild or severe, temporary or permanent. The side effects listed below are not experienced by everyone who takes this medication. If you are concerned about side effects, discuss the risks and benefits of this medication with your doctor.
The following side effects have been reported by at least 1% of people taking this medication. Many of these side effects can be managed, and some may go away on their own over time.
Contact your doctor if you experience these side effects and they are severe or bothersome. Your pharmacist may be able to advise you on managing side effects.
  • Less common (1% to 10% - for shampoo only)
  • dry skin
  • dryness or oiliness of the hair and scalp
Although most of the side effects listed below don't happen very often, they could lead to serious problems if you do not seek medical attention.
Check with your doctor as soon as possible if any of the following side effects occur:
  • Less common
  • itching, stinging, or irritation not present before use of this medicine

    Rare (less than 1% - for cream only)
  • skin rash
Some people may experience side effects other than those listed. Check with your doctor if you notice any symptom that worries you while you are taking this medication.

Are there any other precautions or warnings for Nizoral Shampoo?

Before you begin using a medication, be sure to inform your doctor of any medical conditions or allergies you may have, any medications you are taking, whether you are pregnant or breast-feeding, and any other significant facts about your health. These factors may affect how you should use this medication.
Eye concerns: Ketoconazole cream should never be used to treat infections of the eye.
Allergy: If a reaction suggesting allergy or chemical irritation should occur, stop using ketoconazole cream or shampoo and contact your doctor.
Pregnancy and breast-feeding: Pregnant or breast-feeding women should exercise caution in using ketoconazole cream, and should only use it on the advice of their doctor.
Children: Use of the shampoo by children under 12 years of age is not recommended except on the advice of a doctor.
What other drugs could interact with Nizoral Shampoo?

Tell your doctor or prescriber about all prescription, over-the-counter (non-prescription), and herbal medications that you are taking. Also tell them about any supplements you take. Since caffeine, alcohol, the nicotine from cigarettes, or street drugs can affect the action of many medications, you should let your prescriber know if you use them. Depending on your specific circumstances, your doctor may want you to:
  • stop taking one of the medications,
  • change one of the medications to another,
  • change how you are taking one or both of the medications, or
  • leave everything as is.
An interaction between two medications does not always mean that you must stop taking one of them. In many cases, interactions are intended or are managed by close monitoring. Speak to your doctor about how any drug interactions are being managed or should be managed.
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My hair stylist recommeded Nioxin....now its the only thing I'll use...it has definately helped me with my thinning hair prob. It's kind of expensive but worth it.
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I figure I'll post some studies on Nizoral and the active ingredient Ketoconazole
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Ketoconazole Shampoo: Effect of Long-Term Use in Androgenic Alopecia
C. Piérard-Franchimonta, P. De Donckerb, G. Cauwenberghc, G.E. Piérarda

aDepartment of Dermatopathology, University of Liège, and
bJanssen Research Foundation, Beerse, Belgium;
cJohnson and Johnson Research and Development, Skillman, N.J., USA

Abstract Background: The pathogenesis of androgenic alopecia is not fully understood. A microbial-driven inflammatory reaction abutting on the hair follicles might participate in the hair status anomaly. Objective: The aim of our study was to determine if ketoconazole (KCZ) which is active against the scalp microflora and shows some intrinsic anti-inflammatory activity might improve alopecia. Method: The effect of 2% KCZ shampoo was compared to that of an unmedicated shampoo used in combination with or without 2% minoxidil therapy. Results: Hair density and size and proportion of anagen follicles were improved almost similarly by both KCZ and minoxidil (this is rogaine basically) regimens. The sebum casual level appeared to be decreased by KCZ. Conclusion: Comparative data suggest that there may be a significant action of KCZ upon the course of androgenic alopecia and that Malassezia spp. may play a role in the inflammatory reaction. The clinical significance of the results awaits further controlled study in a larger group of subjects.

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This study was done on men but includes ketoconazole
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Comparative efficacy of various treatment regimens for androgenetic alopecia in menAuteur(s) / Author(s)

KHANDPUR Sujay ; SUMAN Mansi ; BELUM SIVANAGI REDDY ; Résumé / Abstract

Our understanding of the aetiology of androgenetic alopecia (AGA) has substantially increased in recent years. As a result, several treatment modalities have been tried with promising results especially in early stages ofAGA. However, as far as has been ascertained, there is no comprehensive study comparing the efficacy of these agents alone and in combination with each other. One hundered male patients with AGA of Hamilton grades II to IV were enrolled in an open, randomized, parallel-group study, designed to evaluate and compare the efficacy of oral finasteride (1 mg per day), topical 2% minoxidil solution and topical 2% ketoconazole shampoo alone and in combination. They were randomized into four groups. Group I (30 patients) was administered oral finasteride, Group II (36 patients) was given a combination of finasteride and topical minoxidil, Group III (24 patients) applied minoxidil alone and Group IV (10 patients) was administered finasteride with topical ketoconazole. Treatment efficacy was assessed on the basis of patient and physician assessment scores and global photographic review during the study period of one year. At the end of one year, hair growth was observed in all the groups with best results recorded with a combination of finasteride and minoxidil (Group II) followed by groups IV, I and III. Subjects receiving finasteride alone or in combination with minoxidil or ketoconazole showed statistically significant improvement (p<0.05) over minoxidil only recipients. No signifcant side-effects related to the drugs were observed. In conclusion, it is inferred that the therapeutic efficacy is enhanced by combining the two drugs acting on different aetiological aspects of AGA.Revue / Journal Title

Journal of dermatology ISSN 0385-2407 Source / Source

2002, vol. 29, no8, pp. 489-498 [10 page(s) (article)]Langue / Language

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Blackwell Publishing, Carlton, AUSTRALIE (1974) (Revue)
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INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 2353 B, 35400010211259.0040
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This one is done on rats
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Accession number;05A0392694
Title;Topical Application of Ketoconazole Stimulates Hair Growth in C3H/HeN Mice
Author;JIANG JU(Juntendo Univ. School Of Medicine, Tokyo, Jpn) TSUBOI RYOJI(Tokyo Medical Univ., Tokyo, Jpn) KOJIMA YUKO(Juntendo Univ., Tokyo, Jpn) OGAWA HIDEOKI(Juntendo Univ. School Of Medicine, Tokyo, Jpn)
Journal Title;J Dermatol
Journal Code:Z0757A
ISSN:0385-2407
VOL.32;NO.4;PAGE.243-247(2005)
Figure&Table&Reference;FIG.2, REF.23
Pub. Country;Japan
Language;English
Abstract;Ketoconazole (KCZ) is an imidazole anti-fungal agent that is also effective in topical applications for treating seborrheic dermatitis and dandruff. Recently, topical use of 2% KCZ shampoo has been reported to have had a clinically therapeutic effect on androgenetic alopecia. The present study was conducted with the purpose of quantitatively examining the stimulatory effect of KCZ on hair growth in a mouse model. Coat hairs on the dorsal skin of seven week-old male C3H/HeN mice were gently clipped, and either 2% KCZ solution in 95% ethanol or a vehicle solution was topically applied once daily for three weeks. The clipped area was photographed, and the ratio of re-grown coat area was then calculated. The results demonstrated that 2% KCZ had a macroscopically significant stimulatory effect compared with the vehicle group (p<0.01, n=10). Repeated experiments showed similar effects, confirming the efficacy of KCZ as a hair growth stimulant. Although the therapeutic mechanism of topical KCZ for hair growth is unclear, our results suggest that topical applications of the substance are useful for treating seborrheic dermatitis accompanied by hair regression or male pattern hair loss. (author abst.)
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