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Old 01-25-2009, 06:03 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Obsessive Depression

Alright I read an article regaurding high testosterone in women causes obsessive thinking. Well that would make sense being that my depression is caused b/c I can't stop thinking about things....and usually they tend to make me sad

Does anyone have the same problem? Or depression issues? Maybe we can share what's bothering us and give each other advice...
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Old 01-25-2009, 06:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi CatGirl

I wasnt aware that the high testerone makes you think alot... i have had a lot of anxiety, stress, depression lately and i also think its due to me thinking soo much...

I will send you a private message...
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Old 01-25-2009, 08:16 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 01-25-2009, 09:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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same here. I overthink/overanalyze everything and going beyond what may be "normal" for someone to think about things makes me depressed and anxious. Didn't know it was linked to high testosterone. Kinda makes more sense now, but still kinda sucks..
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Old 01-25-2009, 10:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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same here. I overthink/overanalyze everything and going beyond what may be "normal" for someone to think about things makes me depressed and anxious. Didn't know it was linked to high testosterone. Kinda makes more sense now, but still kinda sucks..

very much so! I was afraid of posting that question bc it may make me look crazy lol. but ughhh there has to be something that can be done about it.
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Old 01-26-2009, 01:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Wow, I'm kind of interested now. It would make so much sense.
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Old 01-26-2009, 03:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I may have gotten it wrong but this is one article that links hormones to thinking.



http://www.oregoncounseling.org/Arti...esMenWomen.htm



"Women have an enhanced ability to recall memories that have strong emotional components. They can also recall events or experiences that have similar emotions in common. Women are very adept at recalling information, events or experiences in which there is a common emotional theme. Men tend to recall events using strategies that rely on reconstructing the experience in terms of elements, tasks or activities that took place. Profound experiences that are associated with competition or physical activities are more easily recalled. There appears to be a structural and chemical basis for observed memory differences. For instance, the hippocampus, the area in the brain primarily responsible for memory, reacts differently to testosterone in men and it reacts differently to changing levels of estrogen and progesterone in women. Women tend to remember or be reminded of different "emotional memories" and content to some extent as part of their menstrual cycle.
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There is evidence to suggest that a great deal of the sensitivity that exists within men and women has a physiological basis. It has been observed that is many cases, women have an enhanced physical alarm response to danger or threat. Their autonomic and sympathetic systems have a lower threshold of arousal and greater reactivity than men. In both men and women, higher levels of testosterone directly affect the aggressive response and behavior centers of the brain. Increasing estrogen and progesterone in men has a "feminizing" effect. Sexually aggressive males become less focused on sexual aggressive behavior and content when they are given female hormones. On the other hand, changing estrogen and progesterone levels in women during menstrual cycles can produce a "flood" of memories as well as strong emotions. Increasing or high levels of testosterone can produce an emotional insensitivity, empathic block and increased indifference to the distress others."
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Old 01-26-2009, 03:10 AM   #8 (permalink)
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that's all I could find however it does raise a question about depression, thinking patterns and could it be caused or related to hormonal imbalances?
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I have always been a person who thinks a lot , but never made me sick until now!... it really sucks... What are all of your symptoms?
lately i have been having alot of left arm pain... but at first i had headaches, dizziness, breathing problems... chest pain... although i notice that i will have a symptom one day and the next day it will be a diff. symptom.
I went to my doctor two weeks ago i had several test everything ok expect for the elevated testerone!!!
I do think that i am depressed now and under a lot of stress... I dont know how to deal with it... I dont want to be on meds for Anxiety/depression...
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Hello all,

I knew that boughts of depression was linked to depression issues, but I wasn't sure that anxiety was connected... I was very depressed a few years ago, and it seemed like everything in my life was going wrong, so I ended up being medicated for it for about 3-6 months and once my issues had passed, it got better.

Also, some things to help with the depression and anxiety was that I started working out, eating right, losing weight and my overall feelings got better. I also pinpointed everything in my life that made me unhappy and started working ACTIVELY to change it... I was alone without a man to love me, and very unhappy with that... I worked on being more outgoing and happy about life, and things started to change.

Do things that make you happy--- movies, dinner, going out with friends, buying something you've always wanted, letting things go that once upset you, coming to terms with our illness (PCOS), and being PROACTIVE to changing your life!
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WOW I deal with this too! I think myself in circles so much that I have hard time really remembering what goes on during the day... my thinking patterns always remain the same no matter what is really going on. Interesting.
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Honestly,

I survive by writing everything down... Things that need to be done, things that we need to purchase, and next to them I even write my initials so that I don't stress over something that DH has to do, that is on our combined list.

Honestly? It sounds a little cooky, but it works for me!
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Old 01-28-2009, 08:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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WOW......this is the only place i can voice how i feel about this situation. i never knew high testerone could be linked to so many things. CatGirl, your not alone. i have been obsessive over health issues so much, i was directed to a shrink in the ER!! My doctors tel me i need help...i know i do. Its so hard living like this......its really a dark place. you just feel so crazy.......but were not, its the damn hormones. I just pray for all of us women who deal with pcos and the problems it cause.....we will all be alright one day.
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You are so not alone in this! I used to spend nights awake just thinking of different things, both minor and major. I had anxiety attacks in the grocery store about forgetting something. After I started taking Zoloft, the obsessiveness lowered quite a bit. However it seems like it is greatly increasing lately. Maybe it's time to up my dosage? Anyhow, hang in there, it will get better!
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Aw I seriously love you girls. I do feel crazy so often. Like why can't I get over this? Why can't I just focus? I tend to sleep a lot because I'm so depressed that I just can't wake up. It scares me.

Also my temper goes off the roof. It's probably because I bottle so much "little things" up inside of me that I just explode.

I noticed something here on soulcysters thats been bothering me. If I say the slightest thing expressing my emotions about a sensitive subject I'm some "pathetic" monster. It's like that everywhere. You think this site would have people who are more sympathetic and understanding, but I guess not.

It doesn't help the anxiety or outbursts of rage or sadness. I'm talking about anywhere. I just feel like such an "emotional trainwreck". That's what I've been called.

The hardest thing for me is I don't have a support system at all. I have NO friends because I had to purge my friends out of my life, they were too much of a negative impact. My family has never really given any support. They have that "suck it up, ignore it and it'll go away" attitude.

So.......I feel so hopeless. I feel as if I'm dying.
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