PollySis

And anything by Emma Restall-Orr is worth reading, too!

Druidry does have the same duality - male and female, but maybe it seems less overt than say, wicca with the Lord and Lady? In fact the famous golden sickles the druids used to cut the mistletoe is said by some to present the male and female principles combined - moon shaped for the feminine and gold, the colour of the sun (masculine!) And in druidry both moon and sun were revered - thinking of those holy sites aligned for the sun being in certain positions, etc? And yet there was also a deep awareness of the moon and her cycles!

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I personally believe / see that there exists duality of the divine within Druidism. Having traveled to ancient sites in Europe, and stood there communing with the energies that exist there - I personally would find it very difficult to believe that they didn't have a very deep mythos about the divine, and that they didn't recognize many facets (male/female, etc) about the divine.

Is it like what you find in modern Wicca? Absolutely not. But traditional Paganism, and traditional Craft, as well as what we know of Druidism are all a far cry from modern Wicca.

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PollySis

Yes, Bec, one of the most powerful experiences I had was in a holy site down in Cornwall, when the sun and moon were in the sky together, as we raised some power. Here in the North, we have less obvious holy sites - usually churches were built slap bang on top of them to prevent people worshipping own our gods there anymore. There's a good one about 15 miles from here, next to a huge, single monolith - now it;s the 21stC the church stands pretty well empty but the monolith is COVERED in flower, coins and offerings! I love that! Slowly nature reasserts herself, eh? Our gods - male/female - haven't forgotten us.

I solve that one - the lack of henges and circles nearby - by using xian churches sometimes as powerful places - esp the ones built over something older. Village where I grew up has a huge Norman (11thC) church build on the site of a 10thC xian king's palace - but beneath that is a holy spring, clearly a much older holy site and still a place of power, regarldess of what humankind has built there... The gods are still there, and they're not put off by a bit of medieval architecture plopped on top of them.

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BecStan

A large part of my Heart is in Cornwall. I had amazing experiences there.

Where in England do you live?

There are so many churches in Europe built upon Pagan holy spots that it's not even funny. And I agree fully with your assessment.

As an Elder of mine use to say, "The Old Gods aren't dead, sometimes though they think we are!"

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PollySis

Bec, I live a few miles from York. On mum's side my ancestors have been in this and neighbouring parishes back to the first pages of the parish registers - round about 1580s, and presumably were here far earlier - so this apple never fell far from the tree! My dad's ancestors came from the Yorkshire Dales, and one line from Westmorland (near Lake District) so I'm 100% Northern English. My husband is 100% Southerner - his family come from London and about a 40 mile radius all round it.

We're about 40 miles from Haworth here (Bronte country) and this part of Yorkshire is very very very FLAT. Cornwall for us is as far as we can travel - last time we did it took us 14 hours to get home... lots of diversions but even so it's faster and much easier for us to get to Scotland from here! So whilst the kids are young we probably won't get down there for some time. Cornwall is amazing isn't it? A lot of English pagans go there and say they feel it's their 'spiritual home' - for me where I am is my home - I;d be happy if I never left Yorkshire again! But loved Cornwall, and it is, like Yorkshire, a wild and stunning place. Envy them their stone circles!

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BecStan

You live in a very beautiful region yourself!

And I SOOOOOO want to make it to Scotland next time!!!

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PollySis

Yes, I'd like to get up there this year - not been for ages. Thing I'd like to see is Hadrian's Wall, and do some walking too but think most of my hiking this year will be not so far away, in the Yorkshire Dales:

http://www.yorkshiredales.org.uk/

Holy sites wise, here's somewhere I still haven;t got to:

http://www.friendsofthornborough.org.uk/

'The stonehenge of the North' (well wood henge!)

Any pagan cysters who haven't heard of what's been happening at Thornborough, take a look and you'll be horrified.

Apparently English Heritage are planning some big changes down at Stonehenge too. I get an invite down there each year for the solstice, but have yet to make it.

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silverhawk

y'all doing anything special for Beltane?

I'm probably just going to light a candle... unless I can get my courage up to go to the Beltane Ritual on sunday night.

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PollySis

You should go Janette, you'll meet some new people. How are you settling in?

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silverhawk

I'm not going... I'm not whole enough yet.

I'm settling in quite nicely... I just wish the lady I was working with would stop making my job harder.

I have my altar all set up and now I need to cleanse everything that was around him before I start using/wearing it.

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silverhawk

Polly... I'm researching Druidcraft.... any thoughts, opinions, ideas?

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PollySis

Have you seen this?

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/druidcraft/

The book that goes with the deck is great. I think Phillip Carr-Gomm is heading towards a fusion of druidry and wicca, these days. His book, Druidcraft, is probably the primary source UK people use for info about this.

You can find it here:

http://philipcarrgomm.druidry.org/

Hope that helps!

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silverhawk

thanks... had the druidcraft deck in NM, but SHE deicded that it was hers and wouldn't let me take it. Completely ignoring the fact that I was the only celt oriented person there and they're all native american.... grrrrr to think of all I've lost or left behind because of them.

oh well.... I'm on the OBOD bulletin board and reading some there. I want to take their course, but I don't have the money for it.

why does everything take money? I had a friend in NM who was letting me borrow her OBOD stuff, but when I went back to my husband she stopped talking to me and still refuses to have anything to do with me now that I've regrown a brain and left him.

Don't get it, but it's her choice.

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PollySis

Janette - if you can find a friend who wants to do it, OBOD let you share the course with someone else (so only pay half) - or they used to.

I did the old OBOD course (bard and ovate grades) but it's had a huge revamp and is different now. They used to do stuff like let you pay in installments, too, I think?

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silverhawk

unfortunately, I'm still not in a place that I can easily afford 40 dollars a month for this.

They still let you share with someone else, but I don't know anyone else that has the materials.

Oh well, maybe in a few more months I'll have my aunt paid off and I can do something like this.

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