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Old 11-06-2008, 08:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I found out just today that I have PCOS, and when I was told I had it, and that my testosterone levels were like, sky high, the first thing I thought of, as well as my best friend, is that the first thing my mom will think is that I am gay because of the testosterone levels. I feel like because I am not just a woman with PCOS, I am a gay woman with PCOS, I have so many otehr things to deal with....
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i so know what you mean when i came out to my mom last march she was like is it from the pcos that make me this way i was like no.
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I only came out to my mum at easter and she is still in the highly disappointed phase so i dont think she's even considered it. In my opinion its probably just a coinsidence having PCOS and being gay, cos at the end of the day youre still a woman so you have just as much chance of getting polycystic ovaries.

I expect my mother is more worried about the problem i will have conceiving anyway, without the fact that i am with a woman!
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What you should point out to your parents that (stupidly) assume that the PCOS is the cause of you liking girls. Just because you have more testosterone in your system than most women doesn't negate the fact that you will automatically become bi or lesbian. There are tons and tons of men (that have "NORMAL" testosterone levels in THEIR system) that are GAY, which proves that testosterone does not equal liking women. There are probably more straight women with PCOS than bi or lesbian, so your parents can take that and shove it
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What you should point out to your parents that (stupidly) assume that the PCOS is the cause of you liking girls. Just because you have more testosterone in your system than most women doesn't negate the fact that you will automatically become bi or lesbian. There are tons and tons of men (that have "NORMAL" testosterone levels in THEIR system) that are GAY, which proves that testosterone does not equal liking women. There are probably more straight women with PCOS than bi or lesbian, so your parents can take that and shove it
Here here!! Can i send you round to shout at my mum please cos i dont seem to be getting very far?!
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Here here!! Can i send you round to shout at my mum please cos i dont seem to be getting very far?!
Hehehehe, um, sure????
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I am so sorry that you're having to deal with this! Dealing with parents and sexuality is a whole different issue, and so complicated. It's amazing how progressive our country can be, but when it comes to "the gays" we are just shoved in the closet. If I were you, I wouldn't present PCOS to my mother as only being caused by too much testosterone. I have recently seen studies though that have found that lesbians are at a MUCH higher risk of having PCOS. They did a study and 80% of the PCOS women were gay, 20% straight. Pretty crazy, huh? I take this as a step forward for us, as it shows a chemical correlation....basically screwing their born gay/chose to be gay attitude! The other thing I was going to say is that with my PCOS I only have a slightly elevated level of testosterone. What makes our ovaries screwy is the pitutary gland secreting different levels of LH and FSH (an endocrine issue), in conjunction with the pancreas sometimes doing whacky things with insulin levels. So, I wouldn't necessarily go into a PCOS conversation with your mom just on the testosterone level fact alone. It's the big picture....
Best of luck in telling your mom. Fortunately, for me my mom had come to terms (in her own way) of my sexuality well before the PCOS diagnosis. She has been very supportive, and in fact it has really opened the door for us to talk about the fact that I will have children one day. Before she wouldn't really be open to talking about it. So maybe this will actually be a positive thing for you???
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I am so sorry that you're having to deal with this! Dealing with parents and sexuality is a whole different issue, and so complicated. It's amazing how progressive our country can be, but when it comes to "the gays" we are just shoved in the closet. If I were you, I wouldn't present PCOS to my mother as only being caused by too much testosterone. I have recently seen studies though that have found that lesbians are at a MUCH higher risk of having PCOS. They did a study and 80% of the PCOS women were gay, 20% straight. Pretty crazy, huh? I take this as a step forward for us, as it shows a chemical correlation....basically screwing their born gay/chose to be gay attitude! The other thing I was going to say is that with my PCOS I only have a slightly elevated level of testosterone. What makes our ovaries screwy is the pitutary gland secreting different levels of LH and FSH (an endocrine issue), in conjunction with the pancreas sometimes doing whacky things with insulin levels. So, I wouldn't necessarily go into a PCOS conversation with your mom just on the testosterone level fact alone. It's the big picture....
Best of luck in telling your mom. Fortunately, for me my mom had come to terms (in her own way) of my sexuality well before the PCOS diagnosis. She has been very supportive, and in fact it has really opened the door for us to talk about the fact that I will have children one day. Before she wouldn't really be open to talking about it. So maybe this will actually be a positive thing for you???
Those stats can't be right . . . .
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Well I'm only quoting what I've seen....check it out for yourself...Dr. Rina Agrawal, deputy medical director at the London Women's Clinic is the woman who conducted this study in the early 2000's. As I'm reading more about it online (now that you're questioning it, before I was merely reciting it from memory), the verbage is slightly confusing. So I included it below for all to read:

"The researchers found that the prevalence of PCO was 32% in heterosexual women and 80% in lesbian women, and that the prevalence of PCOS was 14% in heterosexual women and 38% in lesbian women. The average prevalence amongst all 618 women (lesbian and heterosexual) was 52% for PCO and 24% for PCOS. This compares with European data that show that the prevalence of PCO in the general population is 22% and 10-15% for PCOS, while 40% of all women who seek fertility treatment have PCO/PCOS. "
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I am so sorry that you're having to deal with this! Dealing with parents and sexuality is a whole different issue, and so complicated. It's amazing how progressive our country can be, but when it comes to "the gays" we are just shoved in the closet. If I were you, I wouldn't present PCOS to my mother as only being caused by too much testosterone. I have recently seen studies though that have found that lesbians are at a MUCH higher risk of having PCOS. They did a study and 80% of the PCOS women were gay, 20% straight. Pretty crazy, huh? I take this as a step forward for us, as it shows a chemical correlation....basically screwing their born gay/chose to be gay attitude! The other thing I was going to say is that with my PCOS I only have a slightly elevated level of testosterone. What makes our ovaries screwy is the pitutary gland secreting different levels of LH and FSH (an endocrine issue), in conjunction with the pancreas sometimes doing whacky things with insulin levels. So, I wouldn't necessarily go into a PCOS conversation with your mom just on the testosterone level fact alone. It's the big picture....
Best of luck in telling your mom. Fortunately, for me my mom had come to terms (in her own way) of my sexuality well before the PCOS diagnosis. She has been very supportive, and in fact it has really opened the door for us to talk about the fact that I will have children one day. Before she wouldn't really be open to talking about it. So maybe this will actually be a positive thing for you???
I have told my mom about other factors, and when I brought up the fact that when I go to the gyno I am going to make him (yeah, not sure how I feel about a male gyno lol) test me for everythign that coud possibly be wrong, including cancer, just to be safe. I have some oft eh symptoms so it can't hurt. She asked me what would happen if I had ovarian or (i dont know the technical word for it) cancer in the uterus. I said "Well they may have to take out my ovaries or my uterus. It all just depends." then of course she freak out again, saying that they can't do that. That I am too young to have something liek that because I need to have kids....then it ties back into the whole lesbian thing again. I am pretty butch, to say the least, and I do not plan on getting pregnant myself. I mentioned to her that I always wanted to adopt, and then she freaked out again. It' like I can't win no matter what. lol at this point, after the initial reaction, I am just letting it go now. She will react how she is going to react, and I think that if she looked up some more information (and I know her well enough to know that she will) she will see that it is not the cause of homosexuality, and if, in the very rare case that I would have cnacer, I think she would not be quite so worried about her future grandchildren as she would be her child.
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Well I'm only quoting what I've seen....check it out for yourself...Dr. Rina Agrawal, deputy medical director at the London Women's Clinic is the woman who conducted this study in the early 2000's. As I'm reading more about it online (now that you're questioning it, before I was merely reciting it from memory), the verbage is slightly confusing. So I included it below for all to read:

"The researchers found that the prevalence of PCO was 32% in heterosexual women and 80% in lesbian women, and that the prevalence of PCOS was 14% in heterosexual women and 38% in lesbian women. The average prevalence amongst all 618 women (lesbian and heterosexual) was 52% for PCO and 24% for PCOS. This compares with European data that show that the prevalence of PCO in the general population is 22% and 10-15% for PCOS, while 40% of all women who seek fertility treatment have PCO/PCOS. "
Gah, that IS bad verbage, I think that some people think that just cause they have a Phd or are an MD that they are entitled to make NO sense and get away with it. I'm just saying that is seems that from the boards population that there are quite a few more straight than queer/lesbian/bi/ whatever on here *shrugs* who really knows.
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Well I'm only quoting what I've seen....check it out for yourself...Dr. Rina Agrawal, deputy medical director at the London Women's Clinic is the woman who conducted this study in the early 2000's. As I'm reading more about it online (now that you're questioning it, before I was merely reciting it from memory), the verbage is slightly confusing. So I included it below for all to read:

"The researchers found that the prevalence of PCO was 32% in heterosexual women and 80% in lesbian women, and that the prevalence of PCOS was 14% in heterosexual women and 38% in lesbian women. The average prevalence amongst all 618 women (lesbian and heterosexual) was 52% for PCO and 24% for PCOS. This compares with European data that show that the prevalence of PCO in the general population is 22% and 10-15% for PCOS, while 40% of all women who seek fertility treatment have PCO/PCOS. "
saying that 80% of gay women have PCOS is not the same as saying that 80% of women with PCOS are gay. I think that's where the confusion has come in.
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For lack of time, I can only say this: They aren't saying that 80% of gay women have PCOS. They are saying that in a double-blind study of PCOS women....80% of them were gay. Now, in my math: that leaves 20% to be straight. But somehow they have 32%? Some fancy math....

I do have a theory though on this gay/straight PCOS thing....sadly, I have to go to my Anatomy class...so I will write more on that later.
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saying that 80% of gay women have PCOS is not the same as saying that 80% of women with PCOS are gay. I think that's where the confusion has come in.
That makes a hell of a lot more sense thanks!!!
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For lack of time, I can only say this: They aren't saying that 80% of gay women have PCOS. They are saying that in a double-blind study of PCOS women....80% of them were gay. Now, in my math: that leaves 20% to be straight. But somehow they have 32%? Some fancy math....

I do have a theory though on this gay/straight PCOS thing....sadly, I have to go to my Anatomy class...so I will write more on that later.
That's not at all what the quote you shared is saying, maybe you're referring to a different study.
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