Are you taking baby asprin? That can help (if you don't have any bleeding problems!) As for taking progesterone to help your lining... it really just vascularizes it, but doesn't thicken it- that's acutally the hormone, estrogen, role. You can try the baby asprin (with your doctor's permission) or possibly adding in some estrogen in the beginning of your cycle to help thicken before ovulation, but unfortunately I don't know a lot about that... You might try asking on the alternative remedies board to see what others are using?
I don't think crinone is all that bad, but I do think it's bad if you KNOW your progesterone levels are inadequate to maintain a pregnancy, and for your doctor to not be able to track it, due to being on crinone.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help... Good luck to you, and I hope you get your BFP soon!
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I am on 2mg estrace 2x's a day since day before hcg shot, but i always thought it was the progesterone that thickened the lining not the estrogen. or, a combination with the progesterone being the key player.
i am on baby aspirin every day but that has just started recently and was actually due to my migraines from my neurologist's recommendation. i am just hoping it was fate and helps with that also.
i am just starting to think my blood flow to my uterus is poor or something.
my cycles are poor and everything in general since coming off bcp to ttc.
this has been very informative, thanks!!
i agree, i think it should be a sticky~please
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I also had a m/c at around 7-8 weeks and my doc told me it was prolly because of low progesterone (My p4 at 7dpo was so low they said there was no way I could have ovulated...i don't remember the number). She said the next time I went on the clomid she would start me on progesterone after I ovulated. Now i have moved and am with a new doctor that I just went to this past week. I am going to be doing the clomid again and I told her what my old doc said. The new doc said she would rather not put me on progesterone after ovulation because of what someone else posted about, that low progesterone is the effect not the cause. She said she would start me on progesterone the day i got my BFP. I am uncomfortable with this because i don't want another m/c due to something i could maybe prevent. Do you think I should get some cream to use myself after ovulation? I might even have some prometrium samples my old doc gave me (at my first appt, 4 days before i started m/c). Should i take those? (if they aren't expired...)
Thanks for the help and again for the great info...
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Dani- Lot's of Doctors feel that way, because they think that in a pregnancy that was doomed, progesterone would just prolong the immutable. And, that's true- it could, but it could also sustain a pregnancy that was viable. It's a personal choice on whether you want to take that risk. If I were you, and unable to convince your doctor to put you on progesterone, post ovulation, then yes, I would take NPC. Or even find another doctor who is more understanding about your emotional needs to elimate any risk of another miscarriage, on what could have been, a viable pregnancy.
I'm bias though! :p
HTH & Good luck to you! I hope you get another successful BFP soon!
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I do wonder about my doctor. She is very nice and softspoken which i like in a doctor. Although I can't understand what she says a lot of the time, she has a strong accent and I have a hard time with that. I think I asked her to repeat stuff like 500 times...maybe that is an exxageration . But I really would like to be on progesterone...so I think that I will once i find out if I ovulated again or not. I really want to do as much as is humanly possible to avoid m/c. Another thing that worries me about my doc (well...actually it is a nurse). I called the other day b/c I decided I wanted to get beta done b4 I started the provera and clomid just to be sure. The nurse said, there isn't any problem with taking clomid during pregnancy. I asked if she was sure because I knew that you aren't supposed to, it even says it on my bottle. Anyway, she had to go check her book and then was like...oh, you shouldn't take it if you might be pregnant. It worries me a little bit, but I hope it is not an indication of things to come. My sister also went to this same office for her two pregnancies but had the other doctor who is not taking new patients right now.
Sorry I got kinda long-winded there.
Thanks again for the great info!
Dani
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hi bug i have never been in this forum before but i am glad i did.Me and my husband are trying to concieve our first child.I was first diagnosed w/pcos in 2000.when i went to my dr. about taking clomid he asked me if i had any questoins of course i did and one of those was what is the precentage of me having a mc with me having pcos.I asked him if my pergesterone would be to low and his reply was shouldnt have no problem becuase of your age i was 26.he put me on clomid. did not do one test on me at all.wich this is dr. that put me on met also and did not do test for that either.so needless to say i didnt want to be pregnant under his care so i found another dr. i had my first appt. with him 2 wks ago he did a blood test to test my pergesterone and it was low so he started me on clomid i am on cycle day 12.My question is if i do concieve should i have him test my pergesterone checked often to ensure i won't mc.I am really worried about it.is it a normal thing for them to check it when your pregnant or do u have to push it on them. thanks so much for your time sorry if i babbled.
Depends on the doc.... But it sounds like your doc tested you after what he thought was an ovulation, and concluded that you weren't ovulating? (that being why he started you on clomid) It's normal to have low progesterone if your not ovulating because progesterone is made after ovulation. Does that make sense? It doesn't mean that when you get pregnant, your progesterone is going to be low. It just means your not ovulating.... However, if you find out your ovulating, and your progesterone is still low, then you would need post ovulation- progesterone support.
But to answer your question: A progesterone level should be drawn 7 days past ovulation, and then again once the pregnancy has been confirmed by a beta blood test. If the levels are normal, then there is no need to re-test. If they are not normal, then you should increase progesterone support, and continue to test until stable levels have been established.
i have read that a level of 10 for progesterone usually means that you did ovulate during a cycle..
do you have any information on this sort of thing??
i am not currently ttc...but i have tested low for progesterone... sometimes around 2..the highest was 3.4 during my luteal phase..with a range of 3.2 -26.6.
some studies say at least a 5 is required for ovulation... some say 10.
do you think i could be ovulating with such a low progesterone number?? drs havent been much help since i am not CURRENTLY ttc...they kinda blow me off and say...well... until you try to ttc we wont know.
well that doesnt make sense to me.. i mean arent docs supposed to be able to read blood tests and make some sort of conclusions??.plus i dont thnk i even WANT to try to ttc right now... without knowing if my regular levels are ok or not... i dont want to m/c if i dont have to.
any insight would be great!! i think its awesome that you posted all this info!!! xoxo jenn
ps i am not estrogen dominant..i hve low levels of estrogen usually too
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some studies say at least a 5 is required for ovulation... some say 10.
5 means you ovulated, and 10.8 will keep you pregnant. Some studies exclude weak ovulations that wouldn't have a chance to carry to term should they fertilize, but technically it's 5...
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i am not currently ttc...but i have tested low for progesterone... sometimes around 2..the highest was 3.4 during my luteal phase..with a range of 3.2 -26.6. do you think i could be ovulating with such a low progesterone number??
Absolutely! Anything over 5 means ovulation. Your 26.6 was a good one too- lucky you!
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arent docs supposed to be able to read blood tests and make some sort of conclusions??
They can, but it doesn't mean anything at this point since your not TTC. You may be occasionally missing an ovulation, but that doesnt mean you'll have a problem getting pregnant when you do decide to try.
what i meant to say was..the highest levels my progesterone has ever been tested was a 2 or 3.4.
i never had a progesterone reading of 5, much less 26.6. i wish!!! the 26.6 was part of the lab test range for progesterone......meaning the range was 3.2 -26.6 and mine was a 3.4.
did i clear that up??? ughs sometimesi do get brain fog for sure
can someone ovulate with a level of 3.4 or less?? thanks so much xoxojenn
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just wondering... is day 18 of your cycle the best time to test progesterone? ty xo jenn
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I lost my baby boy due to PTL/IC at 24W6D (He lived one day).
I didn't know I was pregnant until 6.5 weeks, when my P level came back at 5, which freaked the doc out enough to check via ultrasound. Everything was okay, I was put on Prometrium 200mg twice a day, stopped at 12 weeks.
At 18 weeks, my cervix started opening (doc didn't catch it, but the symptoms were definitely there!), it was fully open at 22 weeks, rescue cerclage, etc.
So here's my question: I know that I was incredibly fortunate NOT to have miscarried with such a low P level. But how do I make sure my P levels are high enough for a little bean if I don't know I'm pregnant yet?
BTW, I'm going to doctor-shop until I find someone who'll do the 17P shots for me next pregnancy. That plus the cerclage should do it.
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Originally posted by vivcrayton But how do I make sure my P levels are high enough for a little bean if I don't know I'm pregnant yet?
By taking progesterone post ovulation, starting at 3dpo. If you test negative when your next period is due, then you stop the support. If your preganant, you continue. Test your progesterone levels with your beta levels over the first 6 days (3 beta tests, 3 progesterone tests).
HTH!
[quote]Originally posted by prunepie is day 18 of your cycle the best time to test progesterone?
No, not unless you ovulated on CD11. You always check progesterone 7 days past ovulation. If you have a 28 day cycle- that means you ovulated on CD14, you would have a progesterone test on CD21, and AF on CD28.
. But I really would like to be on progesterone...so I think that I will once i find out if I ovulated again or not. I really want to do as much as is humanly possible to avoid m/c. Another thing that worries me about my doc (well...actually it is a nurse). I called the other day b/c I decided I wanted to get beta done b4 I started the provera and clomid just to be sure. The nurse said, there isn't any problem with taking clomid during pregnancy. I asked if she was sure because I knew that you aren't supposed to, it even says it on my bottle. Anyway, she had to go check her book and then was like...oh, you shouldn't take it if you might be pregnant. It worries me a little bit, but I hope it is not an indication of things to come. My sister also went to this same office for her two pregnancies but had the other doctor who is not taking new patients right now.
