Questions if you had a lap.. please read - Page 2

Renee3600 · 05-27-2009, 09:52 AM

Yeah, it was an out-patient procedure. I got there at around 7am and was at home at about 2 pm.

SnowFlower · 06-13-2009, 02:45 PM

Ahhh its less than a week away and coming up so fast. I am so nervous but so ready to get this over with. I went to the pre anesthesia place twice and got all my paperwork and everything done, my blood work, ekg etc. Went to my pre op appt the other day and my Dr was very reassuring. He is first going to do another hysteroscopy and d and c if needed and then do the laparascopy and re check my tubes which before came back fine but that was a few years ago. I am just hoping at this point that is shows I have enough endo to cause my pain and infertility despite ovulating on injectibles and he is able to remove most of it.

I also had my appt with my regular general Dr and talked to him at length about this and I truly trust him. He made some calls and said I am in good hands and to go through with it and he would tell me if he thought it wasnt a good idea. So that makes me feel a bit better. He also reminded me even when I got my wisdom tooth pulled out I had to sign paperwork that had all sorts of warnings even death and they have to do that.

I asked my surgeon if we could try Femara right away and since I was so Clomid resistant try it at a high dose. He said if thats what I want we can do it. I want to see if that will at least make me O. So the plan is surgery and then provera and then 2 weeks follow up with surgeon and then femara.

I think a huge key in all of this is seeing what is actually found and going on in my body. I will be really upset if there is not enough endo that is causing my issues because then I have no clue what it is. He seems pretty confident he will find endo and such though. So there is nothing I can do but wait.

They also changed it to the general hospital instead of outpatient since he changed his schedule and thats where he is going to be that day. I feel a little better about that. We also talked at length about ovarian drilling and decided I think to go with if he gets in there and my ovaries are enlarged he will do it. He said he doenst want to destroy the tissue for no reason. So I am still on the fence of weather I should tell him to do it or not or just keep it as for him to do it only if he thinks he should.

Any other opinions and suggestions? I am all ready and dont need to do anything besides wait for the call Thursday to tell me when to be at the hospital. I asked to be the first one and he starts surgery at noon so it looks like they are going to put me as the first patient which I hope works out. Thanks for listening!!

Renee3600 · 06-13-2009, 04:29 PM

I just wanted to say good luck. I'm not a fan of the idea of ovarian drilling just for the simple fact that it does destroy tissue, but I've never looked much into. I do know that some women swear by it. If your ovaries are enlarged and the doc thinks you will benefit from it I say go for it though. It might be a good idea to ask the ladies on the TTC section since more people frequent that section of the board.

Stacie M · 06-13-2009, 04:39 PM

I just wanted to tell you GOOD LUCK! The laparoscopy is a breeze. I don't remember the tube (but I do remember it coming out when I had gallbladder surgery, but trust me, if that happens you will still be so doped up you won't care).

I believe my lap was in the late morning/early afternoon and I was home around dinnertime. When you wake up you will likely be groggy and tired from the meds, and when I got home (and in the car) I slept.

I had the cut in my belly button and one on either side of my lower abdomen. None required stitches, just a steri-strip.

My RE lasered out my endo and scoped by uterus and tubes, and I guess did an HSG while I was under. I had an immediate reduction in pelvic pain after the surgery.

As far as the actual procedure, they take you in and give you an IV and all. They wheeled me into the room and had me get from the rolling bed to the OR table. Then, they gave me a dose of something through the IV. The anesthesiologist called it the "I don't care medicine" and that is exactly how it felt. I suddenly felt all warm and fuzzy and remember laughing and then... I was out. THEN they do the actual intubation and stuff, after you are already twilighted. The next thing I remember I was waking up. A nurse was sitting with me. Once I was awake she began administering morphine through my IV depending on my pain level. I fell back asleep and woke up in my own room with my family, and shortly after got dressed and went home.

broken eggs · 06-15-2009, 01:38 AM

I had the lap done followed by the full open abdominal surgery 4 months after. The lap was EASY CHEESEY!!! The only part I didnt care for was waking up after the procedure. I hate the feeling of wanting to wake up but not quite doing it. Im a sleepwalker and its almost the same feeling for me. The procedure was quick with little to no healing time needed. No pain. The last thing I remember was being wheeled into the OR and then I was waking up with a warm blanket. No problem. I would do it again in a heartbeat. I was worried about being overweight and having a hard time with my belly fat jiggling around but it was no problem what so ever. Granted they were not able to remove my fibroid due to the location of it and I had to go back and do the full open abdominal surgery a few months later which also was super easy. Well worth it. Do the surgery, dont live with the pain.

SnowFlower · 06-16-2009, 03:35 AM

Thank you girls. You make me feel so much better. I hope it ends up relieving the pain and improving fertility.

I feel like I could be coming down with a cold so I have been taking tons of Vit C and resting and lots of stuff to prevent or at least delay a cold. Thats the last thing I need and cant have surgery postponed. I dont think I will know anything else till Thursday but will def. keep you all updated.

Please keep me in your thoughts that I dont get sick before surgery so I can have it done on time and that everything goes well. I am a nervous wreck but also looking fwd to getting it done with.

jcb · 06-16-2009, 10:56 AM

Wishing you the best with your lap Snowflower. I just found out I'll be having mine two weeks today (June 30). I'm a bit anxious as to what they'll find, but also looking forward to getting it done with and knowing what my best option for fertility treatment will be. Vitamin C and rest should do the trick to fend off that cold, take it easy and keep in touch before and after your surgery!

Eva37 · 06-17-2009, 06:32 AM

thinking of you , ladies.

Hopeful_in_08 · 06-17-2009, 04:52 PM

Good luck with your lap! You will be fine. I have had 2 of them in the past. One in 05 and one in 07. My first one really helpped with the endo for about a year and a half and then after the second one we started TTC. I had them both done on the friday of Labor Day weekend and was back to work on Tuesday (Monday was a holiday). After my first one I left on Sat to go camping with my parents...wouldn't recommend that but I made it ok! The only pain I had was my chest/neck hurt from the pressure of the gas. I found a heating pad to be very helpful for that.

My second one I had a little more cramping but they did another procedure along with the lap. It was a utersacrial oblasion or something like that. We have done so much here lately I can't remember when it all was! My appointments we always 1st thing in the morning and we were always home by mid afternoon or so (after a 2 hour drive from the hospital). Anyway, you will be just fine. Hang in there and don't let it stress you too much. The pain relief when its over will be well worth it!!

SnowFlower · 06-18-2009, 12:49 PM

Thanks so much girls. I have been taking Vit C and Echinacea like its candy. I keep feeling like I might be getting a sore throat and sneezed once. I am so paranoid. I am going to get some Zinc at whole foods today and just keep drinking and taking the Vit C and stuff and pray that I dont end up with a cold. They should call me after 2pm to tell me what time to get to the hospital tomorrow. I am nervous about getting a full fledged cold and nervous about surgery. I just so want to get there tomorrow and not be sick and get it over with. I have been gargling with warm salt water, flushing out my nasal passages and taking my flonase for allergies. Any other prevention tip? Hugs!

SnowFlower · 06-19-2009, 01:25 PM

Well I am about to leave soon. No sign of a cold yet just a headache so hopefully they will do it. Will update when I can. Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers xoxo

Stacie M · 06-19-2009, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SnowFlower

Well I am about to leave soon. No sign of a cold yet just a headache so hopefully they will do it. Will update when I can. Please keep me in your thoughts and prayers xoxo

Sending positive thoughts your way! You will do fine, just try to relax and think good thoughts!

Renee3600 · 06-20-2009, 10:19 PM

SnowFlower - Thinking about you sweetie. I hope everything went well. Update when you can please.

Eva37 · 06-21-2009, 11:09 AM

how you now, ?? hope you are ok.
eva

SnowFlower · 06-21-2009, 06:30 PM

Thanks for the kind wishes. Before I left I posted and asked for prayers and thoughts and no one responded in that thread. Kinda upsets me, but oh well right?

Here is my LONG story!

Anyhow my internet has been crazy since I got home, bad timing! But here is my update.

I was told to get there at noon and that surgery would start at 2pm and was his first patient. I woke up with a killer migraine and got there about 15 min before noon. Right way a nurse came and got me and took my vitals and everything was normal. I told her about my migraine and feeling awful and she said she would see if they would give me anything upstairs and I would be going upstairs shortly for them to prep me.

Then another nurse comes to get me and walks me back to the other side of the room which is the pre anestesia place where I had to do all my paper work blood work ekg and all that before hand. They asked me to pee in a cup which I couldnt do since I didnt have anything to drink then took my blood sugar not sure why and then had to do a pregnancy blood test stat even though I told them it wasnt possible I was pregnant.

A little while after that, they finally sent me over to the other side of the room. At about 1pm I was feeling faint and really awful so I went up to the desk to ask what was going on since the first nurse said someone would be right up to take me upstairs and prep me. Apparantly someone screwed up because I was not my Drs first patient but 3rd and my surgery was not at 2pm thats when I was due to go upstairs and get prepped.

By now I was really upset and feeling really miserable. My husband and son went to the cafeteria and were bored out of their mind. So finally around 2:05 someone calls me to go upstairs. I get upstairs and they make me change into the gown and then all the people start coming in and asking me questions.

I saw the anesteologist who said he would do it with a spinal and epidural if I wanted but he didnt think it was the safest way and he thought I would be in pain so I decided to just be brave and get knocked out. I saw my Dr for a second it was kinda a lot of chaos with all the different people asking me questions and such. Got an IV and some meds and I didnt feel anything at all. Then they wheeled me to the OR. I remember having to be moved onto the tiny table and felt like my tush was hanging off.

I remember lots of people and just laying in the OR for a while which was weird. They put these leg things on me that tightened and loosened like a weird blood pressure cuff and then gave me oxygen. I remember asking when I was going to feel something and the anesteologist asked if I was ready to take a nap and I said sure and he told me to count to 10 and I think I made it to 4 and fell asleep.

When I woke up I was in the first recovery area. I remember being a little off and couldnt see too well maybe fuzzy. I remember a man telling me to take deep breathes and cough and I kept dozing in and out. He said I had been there for around 30 min and I was doing well. I had a bit of a sore throat and my mouth was super dry and I had really bad cramps so he said he was giving me morpheine and just to rest. I remember getting ice chips and not wanting to look from side to side or I felt like I was going to throw up. I remember asking him what they found and he didnt say endo but said minimum blood loss and thats all I remembered. I remember looking at the clock and it was then 5pm and he said surgery was about an hour and a half.

After a little while he said everything was good and I could be moved to the other recovery room. So I got moved to that one (felt like I was going to puke when he was moving me around but didnt). I was where I went originally where they put it my IV and I got my hospital gown on etc. I saw the same nurses and they were really nice. My mouth was so dry but they didnt want me to throw up so I had a tiny bit of water and more ice chips.

A few minutes later my husband and son were in there and they were going over recovery and home instructions with my husband.

I asked if I had stitches and she asked what from and I told her from the lap and she said I didnt have a lap did I. I was like I sure as hell hope I did lol. So she found the the inscions there are two one in my belly button and one further down on one side but no stitches just the clear liquid tape stuff.

They asked if I could sit up because she had to check my pad and the bleeding and then found out no one bothered to put a pad there so I was bleeding everywhere. I ended up having to get up and got changed and helped into a wheelchair. I swear they wanted me out of there fast lol.

I asked if I would see the DR or if he filled out my paper work and no one knew. I asked if he would answer some of my questions and wrote them down but no one knew what happened to it. He spoke with my husband on the phone for a few minutes but of course it sounded like my husband didnt know much or didnt ask much.

Then my husband went to get the car and they wheeled me to another place which was awful. I felt like I was going to fall out. I asked the guy to go slower and he did and I did have a pillow around my belly and held on to it. He then gave me to another guy who had to push me to the car and he was going really fast or so it seemed. I asked him to stop going so fast but he didnt seem to slow down.

I got in the car and rested and got home and rested. I wasnt in too much pain (just felt like really bad pelvic period pain and cramps which I am used to) and was just tired and went from the computer to napping and so on. It was hard to go to the bathroom at first and I had to keep getting up which was annoying.

My tonsils are a little bruised in color and my throat is still hurting but feeling better. I still am bleeding off and on and still have cramps and the pain. I am going to be calling my Dr to find out exactly what happened and what is going on.

But what I gather from my husband is that they found little or no endo, that I had old polyps in my uterus again ( I had this a few years ago and had a hysteroscopy and d and c to take care of it) so they removed them, they did another d and c, they checked my tubes which were still open and clear, and they did ovarian drilling as my ovaries were enlarged. My husband said my Dr said the only reason he sees why I am not getting pregnant is because I dont ovulate on my own. I am unsure about anything else and am so confused.

If in fact I dont have endo this makes it so much harder because then where it my pain coming from and why am I not getting pregnant? To go back further my last cycle a longggg time ago was a perfect one. I ovulate on a high dose of Follistim and my last RE said if u dont get pregnant this cycle you need to have a lap or go to IVF because we have done a lot of perfect cycles on follistim where I O'ed lots of follies and had back to back iui's good lining and so on. I had all the polyps removed years ago and the d and c and was all cleaned out and my RE was so sure I would end up pregnant yet nothing. So then we figured it had to be endo with the awful pain I have been having and all the symptoms matching.

The only thing odd in my cycles with fertility meds have been that my P4 is high early like 3-5DPO and then drops when its supposed to rise. When on prog suppositories and oral it goes back up and stays up. That has been the only issue besides it taking a high dose for me to respond. If its not endo I dont know what is causing my infertility or pain.

I am going to be calling my Dr first thing in the morning and hope he calls me back soon so I can find out hopefully what is going on and will let you all know.

Thanks for reading if you made it this far!