08-04-2012, 03:34 AM #91
I have always had an apple belly. Even when I was really skinny during my teenage years, my stomach always used to stick out. It has gotten worse over the years as I started to gain more and more weight. It seems like in the last month it has gotten even worse!! Im so depressed....it actually looks like Im 6 months pregnant!!!! I need to get back to the gym for sure!
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08-05-2012, 02:32 AM #92
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Let me begin by saying you are a beautiful young lady.
I don't know that I'd call this... *points at tummy* an "apple" belly, as I've never seen an apple 47.5" inches in diameter and the whole notion is vaguely alarming. Although it would make a lot of pie to give away to friends. *grin* Maybe the watermelon belly is a little closer - you know, those six pound perfectly round ones about the size and weight of a ten pin bowling ball? Yeah... apple this ain't.
I've always put on weight in my stomach. At 135 lbs when I was 19, I had someone actually walk up to me in public and ask me if I was pregnant or just fat. *sighs heavily* Women are so cruel to each other.
I struggle with my decidedly unwomanish weight distribution. I have no butt. I have a B-cup breast, which is completely disproportionate on a 44" ribcage, and let me tell you that buying bras SUCKS (thank GOD/s for One Stop Plus and their wireless cotton print bras and matching panties). I have shoulders a football player would envy, and three months ago, I had a 19 1/2" neck. I looked a bit like the psychologist in Rocky Horror Picture Show, as I, alas, also had no *&^%ing neck. *laughs*
As you can tell, I cope through humor, because otherwise I would collapse and fall apart.
The past six to eight months I've been really struggling with the idea that I won't care for what I hate.
So I'm trying to find ways to appreciate the body and all the awesome things it does for me, like digesting food and breathing and holding me up so I can dance with my partner and having opposable thumbs.
It's a toss up any given day how I'll feel about my belly. But it's there, and hating it has never made any difference. Because I can't divorce myself from my fat belly. It's there. It's part of me. So if I hate it, I hate me. And that's not healthy. So I have to find another way through.
You're not alone in your discomfort with your body. But trying to shame and antagonize yourself into changing isn't going to work long term. Nobody tells tall people they have to be short to fit into airline seats and there are thousands of sizes of shoes. So nobody has the right to make any sort of medical or moral diagnostic based on your weight.
I couldn't bring myself to make meaningful, slow changes to contribute to weight loss until I stopped hating myself. For me, that really took finding someone who loved me, bowling ball and infertility and all, to remind me that I am loveable and valued. But I might have got there on my own eventually - I was headed that way.
I totally agree with the no empty carbs eating methodology, get more sleep, drink more water, and find some way to combine slow twitch exercise (30 minutes a day of walking or something similar) with strength training as a way to change your body composition. One of the other women in the forum (TimeForAChange) said that belly fat is lost in the kitchen, and she's right.
The apple shaped body generally happens in women with PCOS because that is where MEN store adipose tissue and we usually are swimming in testosterone. When you factor in the fact that weight gain due to disordered INSULIN (chicken and egg with the testosterone as to the culprit) **also** causes abdominal weight gain, it just doesn't seem fair. (NOTE: There are a small percentage of women who have PCOS who do not have any insulin symptoms. But most of us do.)
The only way to "fix" that is to get into a way of eating - whatever that looks like for you - that stops sending your insulin on the neverending bungee jump of doom. And the only way to do that is low glycemic eating, which means giving up a lot of empty carbs (flour, sugar, pasta) that are causing your insulin to spike. You can't just keep endlessly restricting calories because your body will adjust your metabolism to reflect the lower intake of food.
Someone else suggested "Why We Get Fat" - I actually prefer "Good Calories, Bad Calories", also by Gary Taubes. The science is more clearly laid out without the sometimes overzealous convert moments he has in WWGF. Your mileage may vary. The human body does not process every calorie the same way, and understanding this can be helpful. I also found the Precision Nutrition free five day video advisor thing to have some good points, especially about starting slow and not getting crippled by analysis.
But I think the important things to take out of this somewhat rambling comment are:
1) You're not alone. Disproportionate abdominal fat is a very common symptom for women diagnosed with PCOS, whether due to testosterone imbalance ot due to insulin sensitivity
2) The most effective way to get rid of "belly fat" is to make changes to your diet that will bring your insulin under control, and ideally, force your body to begin burning your own stored fat to feed your brain the glycogen it needs - these changes almost always require at least some moderate carbohydrate restriction
3) You won't care for what you hate. Stressing out about your abdominal fat and being angry at it, when it is attached to the rest of your body, means you end up hating yourself. It's there. You need to make peace with the fact that this is the body you've got at the moment. It may not be the body you'll always have, depending on the choices you make about healthy behaviors, but being down on yourself, or worse, letting others be down on you, because you have fat, is making you stressed. Stress = Adrenaline = Cortisol = Testosterone = Belly Fat. I've experimented with belly dancing off and on over the years and it's made a difference for me in terms of how I feel about my belly. After all, when *I* do those rolly things where you flex your abs from your sternum down to your hips, it sure moves differently than my more slender friends do. *wink* I also got my tummy hennaed once and it was great fun looking down at all the pretty flowers around my belly button for about six weeks until it wore off. Nobody else saw it, but whatever.
4) I like to browse the Adipositivity project from time to time and look at beautiful women and men who may or may not look like me. It's not always safe for work, but it reminds me that bodies are beautiful, whatever their size or shape. And if I can accept their bodies as beautiful, it might help me accept that mine is too. Different, but still beautiful.
WARNING: NOT SAFE FOR WORK!! Lots and lots of naked people, and some full frontal nudity, both male and female (not pornographic per se, although many of the images are erotic in nature, but definitely NOT safe for work, the point of this photoblog is "The Adipositivity Project aims to promote size acceptance, not by listing the merits of big people, or detailing examples of excellence (these things are easily seen all around us), but rather, through a visual display of fat physicality. The sort that's normally unseen."): http://www.adipositivity.com/ You. Have. Been. Warned.
Fatshionista http://www.flickr.com/groups/fatshionista/ is a similar blog showing fat women in beautiful clothing in all sorts of shapes and sizes. It is generally safe for work and covers a lot of the same visual spectrum.
Last edited by bpunkert; 08-05-2012 at 03:30 AM. Reason: Adipositivity NOT SAFE FOR WORK!!! (added Fatshionista Flickrstream as additional option)"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Adam Savage
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08-30-2012, 12:24 PM #93
Me too!. I am new here but very glad I found this forum. I have also done some of my own research.
In my case, I think I have a genetic predisposition for PCOS, from my mom.
I was never overweight as a child or teenager, but as soon as I hit puberty I developed that apple shape/spare tire and never wore a 2 piece bathing suit again. My mom was the same way, and she was never overweight and she was the Queen of healthy lifestyle. She even had a vegetable garden and canned vegatables. So this is what I grew up with and she and I still had symptoms of PCOS (apple shape, course dark body hair, dark hairs around my nipples, oily skin).
I have recently read that there is also a "flavor" of PCOS where genetically your adrenal glands put out too much DHEA (another male hormone that eventually gets turned into testosterone). So the symptoms can be similar to where your ovaries put out too much testerone. My hunch is this is what is happenning with me (and my mom before she passed away), especially since I got pregnant very quickly when I wanted to so my ovaries were ovulating ok.
Then for the past several years I have been going though lots of emotional stress and trauma that is not of my making and not much of anything I can do about it. And this is when I developed CFS like symptoms and certainly all the symptoms of Insulin reistance: high triglycerides, higher BP, a sudden weight gain of 25 pounds in 2 months when my diet did change (of course around the middle), lots of physical, muscle exhaustion and low stamina (not sure if this is CFS or IR)
During this same time my PCOS sympoms also got worse: I started having lots of course dark facial hair, I feel like I have an oil slick on my face and I have to wash it 3 times a day. I don't have acne but I did deveiop rosacea (not sure what caused this). And lately I do feel like my hair is getting thinner, it it used to pretty pretty thick.
A couple years ago I tried 3 laser treatments for the facial hair and rosecea. They would be better for a little while and then just go back the way they were. I have recently read elsewhere on this forum that I am not the only one with this experience, which makes me feel less freakish.
Bottom line is at this point I hate my appearance, and its not just one thing, its all of it I've listed here.
The symptoms have gotten worse, I can't just hide them anymore. And even though I've tried, there hasn't been anything that's made them better (like with the laser treatments). Plus I didn't cause my weight gain like with my diet, and even if I do loose the weight I'll still be apple shaped/spare tire like I've always been. Pretty demoralizing, at least for me.
08-30-2012, 07:10 PM #94
I'm very new to all of this & I haven't been officially diagnosed yet but my doc thinks I have PCOS so I've gone in search of information and support.... I'm beginning to think I've always had it :-( I've always had a rather round midsection like in your pictures.
01-16-2013, 05:00 PM #95
I'm trying my best to lose the weight & hopefully can get this belly toned down some or a lot!! I also have issues with facial hair. I thought about doing laser hair treatments..but idk.
01-17-2013, 12:59 PM #96
That's it, I don't know why I waste my time and energy trying on anything other than black or drawn brown grey or brown pants. And I mean really dark. Most pants hug the big flab of fat below my belly button and tighten it down to the leg. If its not dark it's really pronounced. Instead of people looking you in the eye when you walk towards them, they're looking at your gut. Ugh, I hate it. I really feel like dark colored pants are the most forgiving to hide what painfully obvious!
01-25-2013, 07:11 AM #97
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01-25-2013, 08:24 AM #98
I also try to minimize my grain intake (flour, rice, whole grains, beer, corn based products), and minimize any alcohol consumption to the occasional glass of wine. This helps to keep me from feeling bloated and my midsection from swelling more.
01-30-2013, 04:06 AM #99
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yes I have an apple body too I as lack curvy hips so not only do i get the muffin top but my pants to roll down over my belly..I hate it!!
01-30-2013, 06:00 PM #100
The funny thing is that I am a very thin cyster, but with a belly like that. It doesn't help that I also have lordosis and it sticks my belly out. Even though it's not fat.
02-06-2013, 06:45 PM #101
My belly is the same way and no matter how I dress, people think I'm expecting Its embarrassing!!!! I had a tummy tuck about 3 years ago, as I had 2 BIG beautiful children and needed help with the extra skin and my tummy muscles where torn because of my babies. But still I'm fighting what my tummy looks like My friends think I look great, but I have a hard time accepting it. I'm always comparing myself to others. I want that tone, flat tummy...... I work my butt off at the gym 4x/week and I think its coming down to my diet. But reading or hearing about all the stuff to eat and not eat, I get so confused. I have maintained my current weight for the past 3 years, but I'm not happy, I would love to lose 20-30more lbs.
02-06-2013, 07:19 PM #102
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You kn you have pcos when... thats how I feel just wanted to join u ladies and yes. I too am shaped this way. I always feel just out of proportion. Still we are all beautiful!me (31) Hidden Content Hidden Content dh (37)
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(Nov. 2012) Met.1000mg, prenatal, provera: bfn
(Feb. & April 2013) clomid 50mg, Epo 1000mg, preseed and prayer: bfn
May/June Femara 5mg, prayer: Ovulated
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02-11-2013, 01:05 AM #103
HATE the belly fat too! Drives me nuts. I've been working on loosing weight, but as you can guess, it's HARD. I'm guessing by the way I'm built that I'll always struggle with it. *sigh*
02-12-2013, 07:47 PM #104
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Dci really changed my hip to waist ratio. I have only lost about 20 lbs. But a lady from my office actually stopped me in the bathroom, pointed to the top of her own butt and said "You look great! Esp. Here, you look like a different person."
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Hey, I have that SAME issue! I hate my stomach! I feel like no one will be able to tell I'm pregnant once we are able to conceive. I didn't realize that this was due to the PCOS, this site is a lifesaver! I feel a little better knowing that this isn't happening to just me!!