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Lizmel: Smile04 is a special case because she has a clot/stroke history. I'm not really sure if vitex is estrogenic or not (which is a clot risk for those with a history) but you should be fine if you are one of the women whom vitex works for!

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Lizmel

Thanks NYER!

I ordered the Vitex Monday evening. And, the Hyponidd was ordered a week ago.

Everything I'm taking I've started gradually. Adding one or two more things as we go. My accupuncturist asked that I give her 3 mo. before I get pg. so that I can reach optimal health. Although, my body responded very quickly to accupuncture and chinese herbs. I got AF in less than 2 weeks. So, I'm hoping that my body isn't as bad off as I thought. I'm 31 and not getting any younger. We want 4 kids...if I get pg. again it'll be our 3rd. And, we like at least 2 yrs. between kids. I want to be done by the time I'm 35. So, I don't have too much time to waste...kwim?

Thanks for all the help!

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Lol I did wonder! Thanks for your help, I do have an appointment with my stroke consultant in the end of feb to see if I need to be on warfarin for life, hopefully I dont! Warfarin seems to conflict with lots of things. I'll wait to speak to him about it, hopefully hes heard of them!

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So sorry about that Smile04. I had posted to someone on another board who had gone through chemo for cancer, and I momentarily switched the two of you in my head (because I had the estrogenic thing mixed up with cancer & clotting). Whew, glad I caught it! Best of luck to you!!

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Helcatt

any ideas if Hyponidd and Soy Isoflavones are ok together?

I ordered them both after I had no success with cinnamon on its own.

I did one month of soy and had a 27 days cycle with a def. ov on CD13 (my first ever +OPK) so wondering if I should even bother with the hyponidd

Cycles varied between 39 and 85 days before

HX

NYER

Helcatt: Although soy has been getting alot of women pg, I don't think it's a long term solution to PCOS, insulin resistance & high blood sugar. So you should be doing something to lower your androgens, insulin resist. or blood sugar with metformin, hyponidd, or some other alternative. The soy can just be an adjunct therapy to get you pg or resolve anovulation temporarily for as long as you take it. If you were following a diabetic or insulin resistance diet + taking Soy, and seeing improvements, that may work. But trust me, just because you've gotten a ++opk doesn't mean you resolved the problems of PCOS. I've been pretty much ovulatory for the past 20 something years barring some anovulation due to other factors. But it's the quality of your ovulation/eggs that is at stake if you don't find a remedy to the repercussions of PCOS (such as lowering LH, testosterone, DHEA-S and blood sugars). I'd say do both if you want to, but I wouldn't use soy as a replacement for treatment of PCOS with something like metformin, hyponidd, cinnamon, ACV, etc. Unless of course you don't have high blood sugar, insulin resistance or high androgens, and it's just a matter of anovulation.

But in answer to your question, soy + hyponidd is fine. They work in different ways. I did soy this cycle for the first time, and had to finally take a double dose of Maca to kickstart ovulation. But I also was off Met for about a week (and had lowered my dose prior to that), and I just noticed today that I started Hyponidd on the same exact day that I ovulated. And I ended up ovulating a few days earlier than last cycle.

Just my 2 cents!

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I was wondering if its alright to take hyponidd if you are not IR?
I have problems with weight gain and trying to keep it off, lately ive noticed i have started to gain in my midsection especially.
Ive had tests done and the doctor says everything is fine but if i cant lose more weight would consider placing me on met but is reluctant because of the side effects.

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I don't see why not if your dr. was willing to put you on Met. I'd ask him anyway though, and if you have lower blood sugar levels I'd be careful. Although I have had only 1 incident of feeling a little hypoglycemic. I have found that I can go long stretches without eating (which I know isn't necessarily good). When I was on Met, it was a very delicate balance of eating enough to avoid hypo symptoms & being able to diet & lose weight. So metformin was working against me in that regard. I feel on the hyponidd I can actually stick to weight watchers without having any hypo symptoms. And the resulting hunger pangs/sugar cravings from being hypo.

HTH!

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NYER

Thanks a lot for that info. You really seem to know your stuff and made a lot of sense. I will continue with the Hyponidd too as I really don't want to go back to Met if I can help it

Thanks again

Hx

Lizmel

I recvd' the Hyponidd yesterday. I haven't started it gradually like many have. I took it 30min. before lunch and another before dinner. I took one about 45min. or so this morning before breakfast...and I'll do it again before dinner tonight.

I do feel a bit hypoglycemic...but, it's MUCH better than running to the bathroom because of the Metformin. I've also noticed that after I took the other one last night, I didn't have such an appetite. Don't know if it has anything to do with the Hyponidd...but if it does, I'll certainly loose weight!

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Okay, been reading this thread and thinking about making the switch from Met to Hyponidd. I've been on Met ER since Dec 15th or so and got AF on Feb 1st (was at CD 147), so I'm grateful for that. Don't want to throw my body into wacky hormone shift again, so how do I transition?

I can schedule an appt. with my OB/GYN too (he wants to check on me), should I mention what I plan to do to him? Have Dr's been pro-hyponidd in your opinion?

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lj2bless: I ovulated the same day I started hyponidd (I had been off Met for a week). So I don't think it will throw things off. You could always continue Met till cycle day 1 too.

I didn't run this past my endoc. Knowing her, I'm sure she'd be supportive anyway, especially since my blood sugar is under control, weight is down, as well as losing inches (as opposed to Met which doesn't help much in the waist/hip ratio dept). I do however want to get my androgen levels retested in about a month, so she will find out eventually. I would suspect though that many doctors don't even know what hyponidd is, especially since it appears it's not on the U.S. market & must be bought from India. My best advice is to print out the PDF file Pearl posted on page 1 which contains the study & show it to your ob/gyn. Use the link posted, not the study posted on the thread, as the link has the tables aligned. I know I've seen other studies too, so try a google search. Best of luck!!

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NYER

I notice a vast decrease in appetite too. I attribute it to the fact that Met pushed my blood sugar down a bit too much at times, which just triggered a food craving. Hyponidd also works in a way that is not only a hypoglycemic, but it improves Pancreatic cell function according to the articles I've read.

They hypo symptoms will probably go away. I haven't had a single hypo moment except for at the beginning.

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DaisyGirl83617

Is anyone else taking hyponidd with cinnamon? or is that a no-no?

mandala

I believe Pearl has done this i.e. taken hyponidd and cinnamon together - and now she's pregnant.
I have just started to take that combination as well.