I was never fat as a child, but I developed early. And I always had big boobs..not really sure if that was because of the pcos or not. On top of that, i developed a mustache in junior high. And this one clever boy called me "mustache girl" through high school. During that time, my hair was almost always really oily. So i was a girl with big boobs, a mustache, and oily hair. During high school i was very active in sports, so my figure didn't get really out of control. But my brother always called me wilderbeast, and i was the "fat one" in my family.
Well high school was 13 yrs ago, and back in 2005, i visited my family up north. I saw my grandma for the first time in several years and she said, "Wow you must really like to eat." She's always been great at tact! I had to politely tell her about my condition, and that it's not that i don't try to lose the weight, but it's very difficult to lose.
I still have a mustache. It's dark and i have to shave every morning and pluck my chin everyday, several times a day. It's still obvious i have a mustache. I just don't know what to do about it.
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My heart aches for everything you all have gone through. I almost didn't respond b/c up until a few years ago, I had no major symptoms (I'm not 100% convinced I have PCOS, but that's what I've been told by 2 doctors - u/s only). I only had irregular periods. During middle school I was about a size 10, and my grandma would always make comments about my weight.
In college, I was not physically active and ate junk food so I gained a bunch of weight. I hated coming home b/c my grandma would always bring up how much weight I had gained, etc. I think my mom secretly liked that I gained weight b/c I was now more relatable or something (her and my sister had both had issues with weight and both were almost always overweight).
After being dx in December, most comments have been about TTC - the usual 'stop thinking about it and it will happen', and 'if its meant to be it will be', etc. My mom thinks its all in my head, but won't say it out loud. My ultimate favorite was probably on mother's day. Usually we all say happy mother's day, or we'll joke and say happy bday or father's day. My grandma (again, lol) arrives at my mom's and when I greet her she says happy mother's day - oh wait, you're not a mom...well, it will be your turn soon someday.' Thanks gramma...and you wonder why I don't like visiting too much.
I know its nothing compared to everyone else. My heart goes out to you all. People are such dumb-asses sometimes.
I've gotten ones about my weight, but the one that burned me up was from my fencing coach and the wife of a fellow fencer.
After them hearing about me struggle with feeling good enough to leave the house... having constant nausea, vomitting, extreme fatigue, headaches, gaining weight and not being able to find a doctor who would help me, they apparently thought it was appropriate and funny to tell me that it sounded like I was pregnant and that I should have a dr check me for that. I suppose the joke's on them though because I had a pituitary tumor that I had to have removed through brain surgery.
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Yikes! How thoughtless can some people be - do they not engage their brain before opening their mouth?!
The worst I had was at my hairdressers. My stylist knew about my PCOS as for me, the worst side-effect was thinning at the temples, the left being the worst but it was growing back as fuzzy baby hair.
Anyway, had hair cut, he calls over an assistant to help dry my hair (which everywhere is is very thick and takes ages to dry single handed). This girl picks up the 2" long fuzzy baby hair, holds it between finger and thumb and exclaims loudly "Oh my God - what's wrong with all this hair, you're, like, bald!".
The most hurtful things people have ever said to me were directly linked to my weight. Even little remarks about me being a "big girl" or having an "egg shape" used to really get to me.
People can be so insensitive.
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I didnt even know there was something wrong with me, i always wondered if there were some long lost spanish women in my liniage since i was so dark haired. I had hair on my arms and legs and i remember shaving my arm hair when i was 11, popped next door where my mother who noticed anounced to everyone what i had done. I was so embabrassed. Ive never shaved my arm hair again
I bleach my moustach and one day my OH looked up at me (he was sitting and i was standing) and said 'oh you have a moustach' i could have just curled up and died. He didnt mean it in a nasty way and i guess the blach must have been doing only the tops of the hairs.
Ive always been told if you were thin you would be really pretty. sad thing is though i would kill now to be the weight i used to be.
I went into the docs because i have a problem urinating, as in i feel like i need to all the time. He looked at me and said 'loose weight and pee less' seriously??!!
I was buying a tiny little shirt from a horsey place for the 8 year old daughter of a friend and when i handed it to the check out person she says 'we do, do this in a larger size' i hissed 'its for a child' at her, paid in a hurry and left.
i hate this thing. i hate feeling like this, like i have no control. it sucks. and people are not exactly nice or supportive. My sister bless her when i told her about my diagnosis said 'oh i cant have it too can i?' not in a nasty way but more an information seeking way. I said no i doubted it but there does seem to be a connection between families and i have seen my mum plucking her chin much as i have to do, not sure if this is just menopause related though?
I'm so sorry you ladies have experienced so much intolerance, cruelty and abuse, especially from the people who should love and support you the most.
I had a really bad childhood, V.C. Andrews books kind of bad. I suffered every kind of abuse imaginable and some I hope you can't imagine. I was a skinny tomboy as a kid but I developed breasts when I was six and they just got bigger and bigger (I'm a size M now and they don't even make bras in that size). I also had a lovely little round JLo butt, red hair and super pale skin. So I got a lot of comments from my family (who nicknamed me Bubble Butt and Big Red) as well as a lot of unwanted attention from boys at school and from grown men. My mother put me on Dexatrim when I was 10, not because I was overweight but because she was and wanted a weight-loss buddy. After I hit puberty I started to put on weight. I was about 40 pounds overweight from 11 to 17 and actually looked rather nice but my family picked on me mercilessly especially my father and oldest brother. I once had an uncle tell me (when I was 12) 'You know, you wouldn't be half bad looking if you'd just lose that extra fat'. Mind you, this is coming from my family who considered a fun night reading passages of my diary in front of the whole family (about how much I'd like to die) and laughing about it. I left home at 17, met my angel of a husband, married at 19 and we got the heck out of dodge because his family is as messed up and crazy as mine. We see my family about once every five years and haven't seen his family at all in the ten years we've been married. The first time I went back to visit my mom she took me out to lunch and when we sat down at the table she burst into tears and started sobbing about how I was going to die if I didn't lose weight. She's the original drama queen and loves public attention. I'd like to point out that everyone in my family is as fat or fatter than me, are alcoholics and drug addicts, eat nothing but junk and smoke like a chimney while I'm a total health nut. The last time I visited my mom was when she helped us move cross country and I had to be super careful about what I ate because I have Celiac disease and food allergies. We stopped at a Denny's so they could eat and she hassled me and hassled me and refused to eat unless I ate something until finally I gave in and ordered something and then sat there crying while I ate and then proceeded to be violently ill. When we started TTC I got pregnant once but it was a chemical pregnancy. When I called my mom crying to tell her she said 'Well at least it wasn't a real baby'.
As for strangers, I was picked on heavily in school and often got lewd comments from men because of my chest. When I was in fifth grade a boy in my class came up to me and said 'I thought about it a lot and if you'll lose weight and dye your hair blond I'll go out with you'. When I started putting on weight (I went from 140 to 334) I noticed that on the rare occasions I went out people would snicker and whisper. Once as I was entering Target a group of young men smoking outside started laughing and followed me in the doors stomping behind me like I was a sumo wrestler.
Doctors are the worst. I had one doctor, when I was newly married and hadn't yet been diagnosed with anything, walk into my first appointment, look at me and sigh (while standing in the open doorway of the room so the whole clinic could hear) and say 'Whatever you're here for it's because your fat. Go home and lose a hundred pounds and then come back if you still have problems but quit wasting my time'. The first endocrinologist I saw actually laughed at me when I told him how little I ate (I was starving myself because every time I ate I got violently ill) and that I was concerned I might be malnourished. Last year I saw a supposed PCOS expert. As soon as I sat down in his office, without asking my medical history or doing any tests, told me that my constant bleeding was almost certainly cancer, that PCOS is not a disease it's just the bodies way of telling you you're to fat and that I would need to have a hysterectomy immediately and lose a lot of weight or I'd die. He then spent the next hour berating me about how selfish I was being for being fat and how the whole thing was my fault. At one point he asked me if I was going to lose weight and I said I'd tried everything I could think of so probably not and he turned to my husband and said 'What about you? What do you think about what your wife is doing to herself and what are you going to do about it?' and didn't look at me or speak to me the rest of the visit as if my husband owned me and should keep me in line. I'd like to point out that this man didn't even say hello or shake my hand, literally his first words are I think you have cancer and I'd also like to point out that he's overweight as well.
:: People are extremely cruel. If I didn't have the greatest husband in the world I don't think I'd still be here now. For all you ladies that don't stand up for yourself and file complaints about coworkers or store employees I want to say that I used to be a total doormat. I wanted people to love me so badly I'd do anything for anyone. But when I got sick at 16 and no one cared at all I finally realized that I am my own best friend and have to stand up for myself. You are beautiful, smart, caring people who have every right to happiness as anyone else and you HAVE to stand up for yourself or these awful people will victimize other people after you. And for the gals who have 'friends' that are cruel, that's not what a friend is. These people are toxic, get them out of your life, you'll be better off without them.
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A lot of my experiences are similar. In elementary school, I was always a little chubby, but once puberty hit (early for me -- my breasts started to develop when I was about 8 and my period started when I was 10), I gained a lot of weight, ended up with a face full of acne, and sprouted all sorts of body hair. Junior high was spent hiding from the boys who would call me things like "Hairy Fungus Legs" and "Moustache Girl," which was made even worse because my mom wouldn't let me shave till I was about 12, around the same time I was diagnosed with PCOS. Oh, and add the fact that I wore the biggest old lady glasses ever and somehow ended up with incredibly long, bushy, curly hair, and I was pretty much denied any sort of a social life.
High school got a little better -- I lost some weight, started using Nair, got contact lenses, etc, but it was still really hard. To this day, I'm absolutely obsessive about shaving and plucking. I've been lucky enough to meet a really awesome guy, but of course the day he asked me about my facial hair that I had thought I had taken care of for the day, I pretty much shattered. He's only brought it up twice -- once to ask me about it, because no girl he had ever dated had had facial hair, and a second time to tell me that he loved me anyway -- but I despite the fact that my self-esteem has risen considerably, my facial hair is still my biggest weakness and feels like my biggest flaw.
I appreciate reading these stories so much. This is the first time I've been in contact with other women with PCOS; when I was first diagnosed, I was pretty young and there really hadn't been much research done on the problem, so it was incredibly easy to feel alone and isolated. Still, seeing what everyone else has been through definitely gives me strength. Thanks, everyone, for sharing.
My heart goes out to everyone on this thread. Thank God my family was not the instigators for me-- they were always loving and supportive. My grandmother, well, she couldn't stop herself from commenting on how much I ate at the table, etc., so she may be the only one in my family that caused some scars.
I did have some weight problems, but I did like the carbs as a kid, so I can't definitely say that was early onset with the PCOS. I hit puberty at 11, developed . . .
Had been called "Big Mama" and other fat jokes as a child, although I was also tall (until junior high, then everyone shot up in height except me, ha). I DREADED the weigh-ins at PE where the teacher would call out your weight in front of the class. I don't know if they do that anymore or not. Stupid President's Physical Fitness crap. The kids would always be like "OMG how much did they say she weighed?" --dread, horror, mortification.
I'm really thankful the facial hair didn't start for me til I was in my late 20s . . . I don't want to imagine the fuel to the fire that would have added. But I did have skin problems, tended to have oily hair no matter how much I washed it, and did get teased.
Now I think the worst thing that happened lately, thankfully, was my fiance (now husband) trying to "gently" tell me that my moustache was keeping him from wanting to kiss me, b/c feeling that facial hair weirded him out. . . . he felt TERRIBLE that I reacted so poorly to it (although what else was I going to do?) and now I make him pay for my monthly face waxing, lol.
I have to say, finding a good spa lady who is sweet as an angel, knows my condition, does my eyebrows and entire face every month is a godsend. Once my skin got used to it, it stopped breaking out, and although I have to do "maintenance plucking" between visits (even within days) it's so much smoother and manageable; and it finally feels like my facial hair is largely someone ELSE's problem . . . the lady who helps me deal with it -- instead of just my own. I know it's not for everyone, but it's been a huge relief to me b/c even the maintenance plucking is easier than having the whole mess all to yourself. . . . I have sideburns, neck fur, the whole 9 yards, so . . . yeah.
Didn't mean for that last tangent to go off topic there, but I guess it all pertains.
You women are all awesome and I am always struck by the strength of mind, soul, and spirit here. You're beautiful and wonderful and don't believe otherwise!
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omg this thread is awesome isn't it funny when you look back on it how insensitive and ignorant people can be. i believe that people who don't have pcos don't really understand what we are going through and think that they can point out our flaws to make up for their insecurities. i was never overweight or underweight but ever since i was a wee child i was a little hairy monster. i would get teased from as early as 7 by other children about my hairy legs.i developed at an extremely early (around 6) and therefore when i was 11 i and started developing a beard. other kids would inspect my chin and say ' omg you have a beard'. my family would also tease me in a cute way but at 11 it didn't matter so i just sometimes shaved it and did not care.
The comments that really hurt only came when i started secondary school and at 12 and my so called bestfriend at the time was like 'omg you have a beard' and every frigging day she would be like 'shave it its so nasty' which led me to begin plucking which led to the hair becoming more than a peach fuzz really thick and black. i stopped hanging out with her at that time because of that and her other personality flaws but now she has matured and we are friends again.
Everyday different people i knew were always saying 'you have a beard' like duh assholes (excuse the language lol). whenever anyone asked i would go home and cry it would feel as though they were cutting into me with knives. i couldn't even say the word beard.
the most heartwrenching comment i ever got was when this guy who i thought was my friend after he was making a strange noise and i told him jokingly to shut up said 'you shut up why don't you go shave your beard everyone look its the bearded lady hahaha your boyfriend should dump you go join the circus' and he kept pointing at me and saying 'eww' yea i just broke down (but not in front of him) could you imagine how hard that was to go through at 13. i stopped speaking to him completely and no matter how hard i've tried that's one i can never forgive that one. we talk on and off now but i still kinda hate him.
this one was also good this skinny anorexic ***** was like ' you need to go shave' and i said ' f*!# you go eat' dat was my favourite. oh and another time after saying 'you have a beard this really immature ugly insecure girl was like 'hmmm i wonder if you have a penis too' hahaha what an ass (excuse me it just pisses me off) my really insecure cousin who has been envious of me since we were children always teases me about my beard but she just doesn't matter because she's always trying to belittle me. oh and talk about the boyfriends i have never been in a serious relationship because i was always trying to hide the fact and when they found out i just gradually broke up with them except for my second bf who i never felt uncomfortable around. i posted a thread about a bf now ex who was like for weeks trying to say it like you know i was so disgusting i mean c'mon how stupid can these people really be i mean we can't help it it's not our fault jeez.
now these questions have no effect on me when people ask i just say yea they probably just don' know any girls with beards and are curious. anyway i realized i've written quite a lot but this topic really relates to me so i'm going now keep ya heads up and don't let ANYONE's attitude determine who you are
I was constantly tormented when I was little, because I was bigger-but not by much, I think the majority of the people that teased me when I was younger were very insecure themselves and had no other outlet.
This one girl was horrible to me, and she seemed to have tons of friends who did nothing but follow her every move. When I was in sixth grade she would come on the bus and the first thing out her of mouth would be "hi fatty". She would pull my hair, and at one point started to HIT me just to get a rise out of me. I was always told to "ignore" people-but when she started to get physical I couldn't take it...so I punched her as hard as I could in the nose. OOPS!
She started to cry, and when I got off the bus the bus driver told me that she would have done the same thing. I don't condone violence, but I was at my whits end!
On the same bus *I must have had a lot of bus problems!* a boy that seemed to live to berate me would sit next to me and constantly ask me why I was fat. He would say "I bet when you get home you sit in front of the T.V. and stuff yourself with donuts." One time he looked at me and said "You know, I should try dating you, Britney Spears was fat as a kid, maybe when you're older you'll be hot like her." Luckily he moved when we finished 8th grade and I haven't seen him since.
One of my BIGGEST peeves with people is when they KNOW they're skinnier/healthier/more fit then you, and the make a point to bring up their flaws/dislikes with their bodies in front of you.
I used to work with a woman who was MAYBE 105 lbs dripping wet. She was petite, and all around just a tiny lady. She knew that I had problems with my weight, and I was attending Weight Watchers with a fellow employee, but she would make it a point to ask me if she was "fat."
Of course, I would say no...but it would just boggle my mind that she would have the balls to ask me something like that...I am almost 3 times her size!! One day she was in a bad mood and sat down pulled up her shirt, and grabbed her little "pudge" (which wasn't noticeable) and said to me "You know, before I had kids, I was hot, I was only 90 lbs, and I had a great stomach...now look at me!" She couldn't believe she wasn't able to fit into her size 3 jeans anymore, and now had to wear a size 5. I told her I was probably a size 5 when I was born..LOL!
Needless to say, that proves that really EVERYONE has a problem with their bodies, but I thought it was really rude that she would be so critical of herself when I was there, almost as to inadvertently say "if I am fat, then you are REALLY fat."
Now, I don't really care what people think...but I am trying to do something about loosing weight :o)
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Since highschool I have gained quite a bit of weight and I once saw a guy I went to highschool with and he looked at me and said "OMG"...
Also, I hold most of my weight around my tummy and one time I called in sick to work with the stomach flu and the next day when I went in to work my supervisor asked me if I was pregnant and I of course said no and she looked at me very seriously and asked if I was sure. That was the second time she asked me if I was pregnant within 3 months...
It is really hurtful when people don't understand and just assume you sit at home all day eating junk food and that's why you have extra weight on you or someone will be like you should really try and lose weight... It's like what do you think I am trying to do?
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So, ran into another stupid person yesterday...I had to get some blood drawn for bloodwork. I have really small veins, so the nurses always have a hard time finding a good one. The nurse who was working on me asked if I had drank any water that morning before coming in. I said no. She said, well you know it's okay to drink water before bloodwork. I said, yes, I know and that I just hadn't gotten around to it yet (which meant that ate some cereal before leaving the house and the milk quenched my thirst). And she said...yeah, I know it's easier to grab a coke, isn't it. I was only half paying attention so I said Uh-huh.
After I walked out I was like, HEY!!! I think she insulted me.
What a b*tch!
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Because of the pcos I have darker hair on my upper lip and get wiskers on my chin which I pluck, however I was working one day about 4 years ago and didnt notice I had a chin hair, I was a cashier at the time and a woman I worked with came over and commented that if I needed tweezer I could borrow hers. Not realizing what she was talking about I went on with my day until a little boy sitting in a cart asked his mother " momma why does that lady have hair like daddy's on her face" I was so mortified. I had no idea at the time why my facial hair was darker than other peoples. I now pluck daily! lol
oh and the weight jokes growing up not only came from strangers but family also. It didnt help that I grew up in a red neck family who fried everything and had buttered bread with every meal. I think my favorite incident was when I was 15 and in my freshmen year of highschool and this girl would find something daily to pick on me about one day I was having a particular horrible day and she asked me "so Erica was it you that cleaned out Krispy Kreme this morning?" very loudly in the middle of my english class, I turned to her and said "No but I heard your mom beat up the ice cream man for running out of fudgesicles yesterday" then proceded to slam her face down into the desk and broke her nose. She didnt make comments to me anymore after that, neither did any of her friends. The suspension was worth it.
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oh and the weight jokes growing up not only came from strangers but family also. It didnt help that I grew up in a red neck family who fried everything and had buttered bread with every meal. I think my favorite incident was when I was 15 and in my freshmen year of highschool and this girl would find something daily to pick on me about one day I was having a particular horrible day and she asked me "so Erica was it you that cleaned out Krispy Kreme this morning?" very loudly in the middle of my english class, I turned to her and said "No but I heard your mom beat up the ice cream man for running out of fudgesicles yesterday" then proceded to slam her face down into the desk and broke her nose. She didnt make comments to me anymore after that, neither did any of her friends. The suspension was worth it.
OMG!!! That is SO freaking sweet!! I BET the suspension was worth it! Hehehehehehehehe....you go girl!
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