? for those who O'ed with soy protein isolate

peppermint tea · 07-30-2002, 09:14 AM

which brand did you use?

did you take herbs along with spi? if so, which herbs?

i'm thinking i probably shouldn't take vitex with spi since spi acts like clomid and clomid and vitex shouldn't be taken together...

pt

CherylC · 07-30-2002, 09:28 AM

I just used the generic brand (Spring Valley) from Walmart. I think that the important thing is to make sure that the one you buy contains isoflavones (the plant estrogens).

This one contains the following amounts per serving:
genistein 36 mg
daldzein 21 mg
glycitein 3 mg

talah'smommy · 07-30-2002, 11:45 AM

I bought one but it doesn't say that it has isoflavons but It has soy protein isolate..are they the same things? or am I gonna have to go buy another one???and mine doesn't have any of the other things you wrote down...mine is made by Holland and Barrett

CherylC · 07-30-2002, 12:29 PM

Yes, it needs to say somewhere on the package that it contains isoflavones (or isoflavanoids). These are the active ingredients, the plant estrogens. If it only says isoflavones, but doesn't actually list the mg amounts of the specific ones, that is still probably okay, but then there may be some doubt about the dosage level.

There are several different methods that manufacturers can use to isolate soy protein. Depending on the method, the activity of the isoflavones may be active or rendered inactive (useless). Thus, if the label does not say isoflavones, the manufacturer probably used a method which destroyed the activity.

IMO, I would definitely make sure the label says isoflavones or something to that effect.

Good luck,
Cheryl

talah'smommy · 07-30-2002, 12:39 PM

it says :
"the protein is an instantized soya protein isolate highly nutritional ....which supplies the essential amino acids"
ingredients:
"soya protein isolate,egg albumin,brewers yeast,soya lecithin

and has lots of amino acids but I guess I will try to return and get another one

:o

CherylC · 07-30-2002, 02:30 PM

On the container that I have it doesn't list the isoflavones in the actual list of ingredients.

Technically, the isoflavones are normally PART OF soy protein isolate. However, as I mentioned in my earlier post, the way that the isolate the soy protein affects whether or not those isoflavones are still active.

Importantly, after the Nutrition Facts and list of the ingredients, it specifically states that the this soy protein isolate contains isoflavones.

Hope this helps.

Annye · 07-30-2002, 04:10 PM

Hello,
I too tried the Isoflavones this month but not the kind you drink.
This is my first month on herbs and I wasn't ovulating, my dr is giving me a break before he puts me on clomid.
Well this is what I found:
Red Clover Complex - 40mg isoflavones per capsule
I take one daily
New Phase - Phytoestrogen support for women
80mg Isoflavones per capsules - also 1 a day
Vitex 500mg- take 2 daily
Well I know everything does not wotk for everybody but this is working for me. I am on cycle day 13 and my opk test was positive today, I have ovulating pain ( I had forgotten what they felt like) and lots of CF (creamy). And I know it was the herbs

Also feel much better, with more energy and the mood swings are gone. I don't know if I 'll get pregnant but I believe I am ovulating this month on my own

.
Just couldn't help sharing this with other cysters, and I will keep you updated.
Thanks,
Annie

LSGMSU1 · 07-30-2002, 08:06 PM

I use Naturade Total Soy Replacement.. I bought it at Kroger and used 1 scoop. This cycle I am trying soy isoflavone capsules that come in 750 mg. I'd do the powder again but I'm going out of town and the capsules will be easier to take and for travel.

Last cycle I also started 50 mcg of synthroid and a prenatal vitamin, otherwise, no other herbs or medications. This cycle I'm also adding 500 mg of glucophage.

Bertiebugg · 07-31-2002, 03:04 AM

Okay I got GenSoy Soy Protein Shake Mix... I did not O and well it doesnt have any of the wording that was said in the previous post...

Okay capsuls what kind can I get and where can I get them... I would be much better at taking a pill then choking down that soy mix stuff...

peppermint tea · 07-31-2002, 08:54 AM

cheryl,

i think i'll give your brand a try. can you describe the container and what it says on it. does it say spring valley soy protein isolate or something to that effect? i want to make sure i get the right one.

thanks,
pt

talah'smommy · 08-01-2002, 07:51 AM

I took the one I bought back and found a choc. flavored one with everything you mentioned ...Now if only Af would come I will be ready to go! I really hope that this works for me too..and thanx for posting this info
~Leena

CherylC · 08-02-2002, 09:48 PM

I bought my soy isolate protein at Walmart. Spring Valley is the generic Walmart brand. It is in a yellowish container and in the vitamins section.

good luck,
Cheryl