I have heard from various threads and websites that thin cysters have a harder time conceiving than those who have weight problems. I also heard that thin cysters do not respond as well to fertility treatment than others.. are these actual facts?
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Me: Age 22 DH: Age 27 Meds: 500 mg Metformin April-TTC naturally
Have made the decision to seek fertility treatment if not successful by 2012.
You know, all I can tell you is my experience. I am a thin cyster, not IR, and I conceived my DD with only Metformin. I O on metformin alone, and I am currently TTC #2.
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7-05 bfp Met XR 2,000mg 1-09 bfp 2nd round clomid 50mg + Met XR 2000mg
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My doc said that is true about thin cysters being harder to treat. BUT, there are a lot of success stories like the girls above. And overall, most of us get pg eventually, it just takes some longer than others (and more involved treatment than others).
Also, you already have a head start knowing your diagnosis before you're TTC. A lot of girls don't find out they have PCOS until they've been trying unsuccessfully for a while. So you can get aggressive right off the bat if you want to.
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Thanks, Trisha! Hoping to see heart beat(s) on Wednesday then I'll feel more like it's real!
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It really is different for everyone I think. My hubby and I were together for 6 years without even a pregnancy "scare"...I was not on birth control or anything. I figured it would be nearly impossible for us to get pregnant, but it only ended up taking us 4 cycles once we started. For us it was all natural, no meds at all. We got really lucky. I hope it will be the same for you!
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DD: 09-08-08
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I was skinny, then heavy and now I am finally back to a normal weight.
In my particular case, I can't pregnant without ART intervention and my weight doesn't seem to make any difference for us.
However even if what you heard is true, some studies show that heavy cysters that lose weight miraculously resolve the severity of their symptoms and issues, and technically prooving that being thinner can actually have a beneficial outcome for some people.
The big thing to remember is everyone is different and because of this not everyone is going to respond the same, nor have the same outcome.
Make sure you address these types of concerns with your doctor who will likely have a better prognosis for you after running additional tests, your responses and their personal experience and familiarity with others closest to your exact situation.
Good Luck!
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Just wanted to add that yes, it's true that heavier cysters tend to get much better by losing weight -- that's one of the things that's tough about being a thin cyster is that we have no weight we can lose for the most part (I was even told to gain a little weight b/c too skinny), so that is not an option for us. We have symptoms *despite* always being thin.
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yep, we're frequently told the reason we are irregular is that we're too thin or athletic... i always thought that was the reason for me. There is a great sticky on here about that though... they say that for thin PCOSER's its not that testerone is too high (in some cases), its that estogen is too low so that in terms of ratio of one to the other is similar to having too much testosterone.
TrishainAZ, that's really interesting about thin cysters having relative hyperandrogenicity due to lower levels of estrogen. In the sticky you mentioned (I assume this one: Pcos Treatment - Non-obese Women ) I read the following:
"We believe they experience relative hyperandrogenicity at this point. Their androgen levels are not really increased but their estrogen levels may actually be lower than normal owing to the low percent body fat (an important source of estrogen production). The ovaries continue to function, demonstrated by persistent menstrual cycles, in all but a very small percentage of these women. But in the absence of estrogen production from peripheral fat cells, the environment is actually relatively hyperandrogenic."
I'm not sure if I have persistent menstrual cycles (been on and off bcp the last year) but it was irregular from the beginning for me, although I would get AF every two to occasionaly three months if I remember correctly.
I have difficulty with the body fat issue though.. I am thin cyster with a 20.1 BMI but my fat percentage is around 23 %, not what you'd call a low percentage of body fat, but normal/perhaps even on the high side of normal. A few years ago I lost a lot of weight and at that time my hair and skin looked better than before or after, even though I was definitely underweight with a BMI of 17. I guess that in my case I was better of with a lower percentage of body fat while the quote would make it seem that thin cysters need to gain body fat..?
I'm seeing an endo this tuesday so I hope I find out about my estrogen soon, although I remember from earlier years that I never had high levels of any hormone whatsoever. My testosteron came back as normal. If I look at myself I would guess my estrogen is low because I have really tiny boobs lol but I know that's not something to base a diagnosis on
I hope you can enlighten me by telling me a bit more about this theory or perhaps you can give me some links/threads where I can read up? Thanks in advance!
July- Sorry I don't think I know much more than what I read on that sticky! I will say though that I DID lose weight even though I didn't need to when I was ttc my first and second kids (I'm pregnant with number 4 now) and it didn't seem to make it any harder. In fact I was borderline underweight when I conceived my second. So, no expert here, but my experience has me thinking that we don't NECESSARILY need to gain weight even if quite thin (although purposely losing it isn't necessarily a good idea either.. mine was just a combination of low carb, met and breastfeeding)
I guess I took my siggie off, but my history is that it took me over a year of trying before I concevied my 1st and then I conceived #1, #2 and #3 all on metformin alone. Whatever month I started Met was the month I gave birth the following year. # 4 happened faster and I got pregnant on my first cycle of met this time. I'm almost 12 weeks along now.