Hi i was just wondering something. I've been raised as a Baptist and my beliefs are strong. The church i go to is very small and new. My pastor has repeated this several times over. That if you were in-tuned to God you wouldn't get sick. Sickness couldn't hit your family and what not. I'm just wondering if everyone believes that. As a PCOS'er and a person who has strong beliefs i dont think that is true. I dont even think it's in the bible that you couldn't get sick. I know he heals and shields us and protect us but that doesnt mean we're untouchable from sickness or death etc. I was raised it a wonderful church and loved my pastor until his untimely death. He was murdered almost a decade ago. He was gifted and very strong and knew he was going to go the way he did. And still he is gone. I dont know someone enlighten me please. Do you believe that your sickness means your not in-tuned with God.
Because of adam and eve's sin, we inherited sickness thus, we all get sick and die. Roman 5:12 One good example is in reading Job, starting at chapter 1. Satan used sickness to break Job's integrity to god. Job 2:6,7 Even his friends accused him of doing something against god to be punished in such a way, but that was not true.
A familiar scripture, John 3:15 says, God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son." A perfect man died to relieve the sin of the perfect man Adam. Therefore, we have a chance due to this ransom sacrifice.
One major scripture that backs this up is "With eveil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone." James 1:13
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My pastor has repeated this several times over. That if you were in-tuned to God you wouldn't get sick. Sickness couldn't hit your family and what not.
I think that is a load of guilt making cr*p, personally (sorry, but I get fired up over preachers saying stuff like that). Our health is not contingent on our faith. That is like telling a parent that their child died because they didn't believe hard enough or pray often enough or tithe enough of their income. We get sick. It happens. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Jesus' redemption did not remove physical sickness from the world. Even Paul had an affliction that God did not remove from him. Was he "out of touch with God?" Of course not.
Faith is what gets us through the rough times. It doesn't exempt us from them.
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A familiar scripture, John 3:15 says, God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son." A perfect man died to relieve the sin of the perfect man Adam. Therefore, we have a chance due to this ransom sacrifice.
One major scripture that backs this up is "With eveil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone." James 1:13
Ajani, I'm sorry if it look like I said sickness was removed by Christ ransom, we're all on this site because we have a sickness. I too appreciate the scripture at Romans 3 23 -24. "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and it is as a free gift that they are being declared righteous by his undeserved kindness through the release by the ransom by Christ Jesus."
I agree, the clergymen that preach that sickness is our fault is causing a lot of heartache and it's not scriptural. Whatever they teach should be backed up with a scripture.
Just keep in mind...
Revelation 21:4 says "And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away."
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That's certainly not a Baptist belief. Small churches can often be overtaken by a pastor with ideas contrary to Scripture. We just left last year a mid sized church with beliefs not in line with Scripture. If the pastor said it, it was true, according to the leadership. Again, that's not Baptist.
It does sound like a Pentacostal belief, not a popular one, but common in some circles. It reminds me of the pastor who said that if you did ______ you wouldn't get sick. He changed his tune when he got cancer. One of the greatest missionaries in history watched as his children starved and his wife went mad and tried to kill him. Being "in-tune" is a must, how do we survive otherwise, but its certainly not going to shield us from the effects of living in a fallen world.
There are a lot of preachers who preach faith based teachings and believe that if you have faith to walk in full health all the days of your life, you will... I won't touch that, because I, too, am very strong in my beliefs and never question what someone else feels that they have heard from God. That being said, my relationship with God and what HE says in HIS Word, the Bible is what I go on outside of anything else. Ministers are human too, and although, gifted to speak and minister the Word of God to others, still are flesh enough to speak their own intellecut and not the wisdom and most importantly, the Word of God. Let me ask you this. Is it not in the Bible that Jesus went around healing people? They lived right there on the earth with Him when he was alive and walking on the earth... yet, they got sick. That should tell you something! I understand where your Pastor was coming from and his faith, but Id on't think that you should allow that to make you feel that you are not intune with God because of PCOS or other factors. Sometimes, God does allow sickness so that he has an opporunity and door to come in and show us His healing power.
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I thank all of you for responding i'm sorry i wasn't here i had to lay down for awhile. I'm just discouraged it's like i'm not allowed to hurt you know? If i dont put on a huge smile it's like "your not in-tuned". I dont drag around either i know better then that. These fiboroids are kicking my butt on top of everything else that is wrong physically with me ( i have a list lol). But i know what the lord can do. I've been through it. I just dont understand that thought. But i have no doubt that god will bring us through all out troubles. In his time. Which is the right time. I dont mind waiting. Thanks everyone =)
I used to work with a lady who didn't believe in talking about illness - because she felt if she spoke it, it would happen. Once I mentioned how I felt like I was coming down with a cold, and it bothered her (that was before I knew her beliefs). Is this along the same lines? Anyway, I personally do not believe it, because according to my own beliefs, God tells us He will test some of us with our health.
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Nah I don't believe that. I believe that God only allows you to go through what you can stand, and when it gets too much he will be there to help you through even more, as long as you keep your faith. Illness happens to everybody, it doesn't reflect upon the strength of your faith. I think perhaps the pstor means that the power of faith, or positive thinking can have an effect on our mental health and help us recover quicker if we're ill. Just my interpretation.
In-tuned with god and you wont get sick? 
