weight loss as a symptom

rocknroll · 02-15-2008, 09:18 PM

So i suspect i am IR.Well right now it is under control.
but before being the bcp and anti androgene for my pcos , i always had faints, and blurred vision ect when standing up, plus AN, getting tired all the time blahblah

I am not overweigh and i noticed that when i am not treated so far i dont pu on weight but i actually lose weigh, i remember that summer when i eated so much candies, and other things...and i went down from 105 to 90 , eating more junk food i craved for, but i was constantly tired...

apparently weight loss can be a symptoms of IR and diabetes type 2 in some cases... I wondered why..and does this precede a weight gain..??? i dont really get it..

Saille · 03-09-2008, 06:24 PM

Weight loss is a symptom of high blood glucose. Your body can't use anything you put in it, so you lose weight. So you can eat 2500 calories a day, huge portions, candy, regular soda, baked goodies...whatever....and not gain weight and eventually even start losing weight. While this sounds cool, it's not, because your body is literally wasting away because it can't use any of it.

When you are treating whatever metabolic syndrome you've got, then your metabolism begins to function correctly. So if you put 2500 calories into your body every day then you will gain weight because now your body can use those calories....but unless you are burning huge amounts of calories every day it really doesn't have any use for that much fuel so it will store whatever is left over as fat.

rocknroll · 03-10-2008, 11:26 AM

Well that is weird that is would be symptoms of high blood glucose...i mean i got my blood sample before i got tested for PCOS (but failed to be diagnosed ) the first time showed a very low glycemy , the minimum figure...the second time (when i was diagnosed) my glycemie was pretty much the same , the lowest range...maybe it's a different test for blood glucose and glycemy??? I though that it was getting IR that produced all this..sometimes you can be IR but your glycemie is still fine....
I am lost in this...
I also read on many website weightloss can be a symptoms in some cases of IR and diabetes type 2...

Do you mean i am treated now for PCOS (caused by IR) but that i could have another metabolic syndrome causing PCOS???

Of course now that I am "treated" my IR symptoms have disappeared...still a slight AN though, and i dont feel tired and hungry like i used too.i dont crave for sugar anymore. I went back to my regular 105 lbs.but when not treated it's just horrible, i cannot live a normal life because i am so tired and weak and plus the nice aesthetic symptoms of PCOS.

Saille · 03-11-2008, 04:56 PM

There are a whole cluster of things that seem to cluster together under the heading of metabolic syndrome. There's Insulin Resistance, Type 2 Diabetes (and pre-diabetes), PCOS, Reactive hypoglycemia, hypothyroid, hyperthyroid (Grave's Disease), and many variations of those.

Many of these things just seem to end up clustered together....they share many of the same symptoms, many of the same treatments, and involve many of the same glands. I'm not a doctor and that's about the extent of my understanding of them....that many of them tend to go hand in hand.

Myself, for instance, I was dx'ed with hypothyroid at 30, Type 2 diabetes at 32 and PCOS at 34....heaven only knows what it will be when I'm 36!! lol

Basically, when your blood glucose gets too high for too long your cells stop processing glucose right. They kind of shut down and just give up because they've been soooo flooded with way too much glucose from all those carbs for just way too long. So they go on strike. When that happens your body no longer has any way to get fuel....the glucose isn't going into your cells anymore, it's floating around in your blood until you excrete it.

So at this point your blood glucose is seriously elevated, you're urinating all the time and thirsty as all heck, dry mouth, dry skin, chapped lips, maybe even sporting a nasty yeast infection you can't seem to shake. Your breath smells icky and your hair may be falling out. Everything you eat, every bit of fuel you feed your body, is being excreted in your urine instead of being used as fuel.

So since your body can't get any fuel from the things you're eating, your body does what it always does when you're starving....it begins to take the nutrients it needs from your fat stores and your muscles, and eventually from your bones if you let it go on long enough. So even though you're eating and drinking your body is actually starving, and so you lose weight.

rocknroll · 03-11-2008, 05:11 PM

Yeah but how could this possible if my blood glucose was not high ..but on the low range on the contrary..?it does nto make sense...yet i am IR which does nto necessarily implies high blood glucose as the insulin still manages to keep the sugar in check during that prediabetic phase....

I got my thyroid issue repeatedly checked when on the pill and off,...and the pill would not have taken care of a thyroid issue i guess...My mom had hyperthyroid issue for a while after she had cancer as a result of a postraumatic stress but now she is balanced and dont need medication (she had radioactivetreatment)..apparently that was not something permanent.And she had none of the symptoms...she even put on a bit of weight when her thyroid should have caused her to loose a lot..weird...

I guess we are all so different..
I am glad i never had the badbreath issue because of IR/Pcos I never heard about that...

I thought most IR people/type 2 diabetes were suposed to put on weight on the contrary...not loose some, so I was surprised and I wondered why some loos the weight and other gain some...maybe the weight loss precedes a weight gain??

Saille · 03-11-2008, 05:23 PM

Many Type 2's put on weight when they get their glucose under control because now their bodies are actually using or storing the excessive calories they're taking in, instead of spilling it out in their urine.

As for you not being T2 but having had weight loss? I definately don't have an answer for that....you'd have to ask your doc that one. The only thing I could guess is that each person is different, and some people are more sensative to side effects than others, and some are more sensative to elevated glucose levels than others.

Take my thyroid for example, I take 100mcg Synthroid every day, but in the past when I didn't have insurance and would occasionally run out of pills and not be able to pick more up for a few days? I have no symptoms when I don't take my thyroid meds. I had no symptoms that my thyroid wasn't working right other than weight gain, I even had to argue with my old doc to convince him to test my thyroid!!

My mother, if she misses one day of thyroid medicine, KNOWS it. She can feel if she's a few hours late with it, she's so sensative to it.

Every person is different.

justanotherone · 03-17-2008, 05:40 AM

Hello everyone, just another newbie here to tell her story.

I can attest to the fact that weight loss without even trying is a possible sign of diabetes due to high glucose. I was 200 lbs back in October of 2007 and all of a sudden I started losing weight without a good reason. I'm talking about 10 to 15 lbs a month without cutting back on horrible eating habits. When asked by my family members about my unexpected weight loss, I blamed it on stress. I thought nothing more of it nor went to my doctor, IOW, just ignoring it while losing around 50 lbs in the matter of 4 months. Around about February, my asthma starting bothering real bad. So much so that I went into emergency, thinking I was having an attack due to maybe the flu. Turns out, I was diagnosed with type II diabetes and a blood clot on my lung too close to the heart. When asked about my symptoms by the emergency doctors, not only had I started losing weight but my vision has gotten blurry with water being my best friend in recent months. I felt really ignorant laying up in the hospital for about two weeks being taught how to be a diabetic who has to control it with daily shots and also deal with what is now diagnosed as hereditary blood clots. Wish I had went to my doctor as soon as I knew my health was not right.

In any case, lesson learned and I've adjusted my life tremendously and hope to live life to the fullest...with regular doctor checkups.

Glad I found this site

rocknroll · 03-17-2008, 05:58 PM

yeah...the thing is i was wondering if insulin alone could cause this, I am not or never was Type II ..(so far, prolly i can dvelop this later on)..but i am definetlY IR though on the pill this is 'masked' somehow...
i always had very low blood glucose, but i am sure my insulin was out of whack and that was caused my PCOS...i lose weigh everytime i got of the pill, i lost weight the first time when my cpos symptoms developped frankly around age 21...

Saille · 03-18-2008, 11:19 PM

I'd guess that it's tied in to the IR somehow....IR and diabetes are in the same area...IR is a precursor to diabetes for many of us....so maybe that connection is it. Or maybe there's something else going on....definately something to discuss with a doc.

rocknroll · 03-20-2008, 06:17 PM

yeah but my doc wont discuss IR with me.she's the third endo i see, the first one misdiagnosed me, the second was cold and distant and would not listen to me when i talked about my hair and asked hi about iron supplements since my iron was just below the normal..he told me ' now that you're hormones are in check you hair wont shed anymore, and for the iron it will go up on its own , eat meat'....great..one year after that my hair was still falling out..a bit less but not back to normal..and my current endo is the most understading i found, and she listens..but she says i do not need to worry about IR now, that everything is in control and that anyway i am underweight..i should contact her if i saw my symptoms coming back for some reason,...well i think we will rediscuss this later when i will want a kid..

my weight is normal on the pill so far..46..and very stable..but i dont want to go down or up..

this syndrome is so weird