Weird thinking!

belle81 · 12-31-2005, 05:23 AM

Does anyone think that thinking of women sexually could be a side effect of PCOS??

Tharaa · 12-31-2005, 06:20 AM

There are some speculations that PCOS raises the bodies level of testosterone,which could bring about homosexual tendencies,but You cannot directly link it with PCOS. If you are a sane person you should have full control over your thinking,if you dont you might have underlying issues.its always a choice!

belle81 · 12-31-2005, 07:15 PM

thank you for posting, I was just wondering if PCOS could have anything to do with it.

joyblack · 01-02-2006, 10:58 PM

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Does anyone think that thinking of women sexually could be a side effect of PCOS??

Yes -- it's testosterone related. But not quite the way you might imagine -- the PCOS is probably caused by the same elevated testosterone levels at a fetal stage.
Do a Google search on "digit ratio" and you'll find plenty of evidence to indicate that if your ring fingers are longer than your index fingers then it's an indication of early fetal exposure to "male" levels of testosterone which will also have affected the brain at the earliest stages of development. So if your ring fingers to index fingers ratio is of the "male" pattern, your brain is likely to be too. It affects people different ways, of course. I reckon I probably think like a guy, but I'm heterosexual even though quite masculinized physically. But I reckon I'm probably keener on the physical side of my relationship than most women.

rainbow85 · 01-22-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tharaa

There are some speculations that PCOS raises the bodies level of testosterone,which could bring about homosexual tendencies,but You cannot directly link it with PCOS. If you are a sane person you should have full control over your thinking,if you dont you might have underlying issues.its always a choice!

Being gay isn't a choice...it's who you are. You can't help it, you don't have "full control" over it just like straight people don't really have control over who they fall for. You love who you love.

Rasburry · 01-22-2006, 06:45 PM

I've often wondered this myself. My testosterone and estrogen levels are flip flopped. I'm happily married with children but I've always had a fascination/attraction to women. I've actually acted on this in the past. It could start the whole debate as to if it's a choice or not. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs and opinions. But I do have to tell you that when I saw my labs come back and was diagnosed with PCOS, a lot of how I felt about the same sex made sense to me. Each woman is different. I, personally, don't feel like it's such a controlled thing (love). At some point you do have "control" over who you fall in love with (the same as starting a relationship in a hetero couple...if you see the person isn't good for you, i guess you do have a choice to stop it where it is and walk away). But I think for some, you love who you love, male or female. Not to say that ALL women with PCOS will check women out sexually.

squidge63 · 01-23-2006, 01:18 PM

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Being gay isn't a choice...it's who you are. You can't help it, you don't have "full control" over it just like straight people don't really have control over who they fall for. You love who you love.

Well put rainbow, it isn't a choice it is who you are, although many of us chose to go down the straight path before realising that we weren't being true to ourselves or because of family pressure or whatever it just wasn't the done thing to be gay. I know I did, it was easier than coming out and trying to cope with knowing that I was gay, at that stage of my life it wasn't the right moment for me to come out. I knew as a teenager but my family are not "gay friendly", I was brought up RC and thought I would be struck down by lightning from above, homophobia was rampant.. it was just less scary to choose the straight life.

I don't think that fancying women or fantasing about women has anything to do with our raised testosterone levels. There are many women in the world (without a raised testosterone) who have a fantasy involving another woman, or thinking that oooooooooooh that woman over there is hot, it doesn't mean that they are gay as with many it is just a thought. Then you have others who have never entertained a thought about another woman. I have quite a few straight non pcos friends who have said that they think so and so is hot, or has had a fantasy involving a woman, and they don't want to act on it, it is just a fantasy. Many of us have fantasies that are just that, a fantasy.

rainbow85 · 01-24-2006, 08:22 PM

Exactly, thank you for sharing that. It's true, you can choose to be true to yourself or you can choose to deny yourself your true identity, but you can't help who you love or who you fall for. I commend you for coming so far after being raised in such a closed minded household, I know from a lot of my friends that that is really really hard to do.

Tharaa · 01-24-2006, 08:44 PM

I seriously doubt the statement that people are born gay,that being said,im not going to have a debate with anyone.Because I have my own personal beliefs,and I definately believe being gay is a choice you make,we all have desires,instincts and impulses,but we choose whether or not we are going to act on them,straight people for example do choose whom they form an intimate relationship with,and feelings are feelings,we can choose not to act on those feelings.

squidge63 · 01-25-2006, 03:37 AM

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I seriously doubt the statement that people are born gay,that being said,im not going to have a debate with anyone.Because I have my own personal beliefs,and I definately believe being gay is a choice you make,we all have desires,instincts and impulses,but we choose whether or not we are going to act on them,straight people for example do choose whom they form an intimate relationship with,and feelings are feelings,we can choose not to act on those feelings.

Being gay is definitely not a choice, who in their right f***ing mind would choose to be a part of society that is hated and despised because they "are not normal... ie: because we didn't fancy, like, fall in love with someone from the opposite sex"... I knew from an early age that I was different from my friends and not only for being gay.. the only choice I made was to try the straight path because at the time I couldn't cope with or understand being gay... all the time I went along that path it didn't feel right or normal, I mean I had fun but I knew it wasn't my true path, and it didn't stop any feelings I had for females.

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straight people for example do choose whom they form an intimate relationship with,and feelings are feelings,we can choose not to act on those feelings.

Would like to point out something here..... may seem an odd concept to you, but hey, gay people also choose who they wish to form an intimate relationship with, same as you .. only difference being we choose someone who is the same sex.. so according to you we should all forget our feelings and follow the straight path and be miserable, and depressed because they are not being true to themselves.. I wouldn't expect you to understand, and you have your beliefs which is fair enough, but if you don't want a debate or to get peoples backs up, don't post to stuff you havent got a clue about.

Tharaa · 01-25-2006, 06:28 AM

Thank you for sharing your opinion but I agree to disagree with you,Best wishes

rainbow85 · 01-25-2006, 07:13 AM

squidge hun - i understand you completely and I agree with you 100%, but you can't let closed minded people get you so upset. Unfortunately, nothing you are going to say is going to change Tharaa's uneducated opinon on the gay community. You can't let people like that upset you, it's just not worth it. Tharaa is lucky enough to not have to face the same challenges that we have, and that can result is not understanding what it's like to be gay.

I know that you didn't choose this, I know that it chose you. I know how hard it is to be put down for something you can't help. If you ever want or need to talk, please feel free to message me.

Tharaa · 01-25-2006, 08:29 AM

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squidge hun - i understand you completely and I agree with you 100%, but you can't let closed minded people get you so upset. Unfortunately, nothing you are going to say is going to change Tharaa's uneducated opinon on the gay community. You can't let people like that upset you, it's just not worth it. Tharaa is lucky enough to not have to face the same challenges that we have, and that can result is not understanding what it's like to be gay.

I know that you didn't choose this, I know that it chose you. I know how hard it is to be put down for something you can't help. If you ever want or need to talk, please feel free to message me.

It is obvious that some people cannot respect the views of others,its not a matter of education,its a matter of personal belief and/or opinion.You have a right to your view,and I have a right to mine.Just because Im not a supporter of the gay "lifestyle" does not mean I cannot be your well wisher or your friend.I don't have a problem with anyone in this world,nor do I judge anyone,but my religious beliefs are opposed to the gay lifestyle.I can understand your struggles,I understand ur feelings.But it wont change my beliefs.This topic was not meant to be a debate,and so Im not going to try and make it one,all im saying is,every body has a right to their opinion,and everyone goes through many struggles in this life.Please respect my view as I have respected yours and move on......thanks

squidge63 · 01-25-2006, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rainbow85

squidge hun - i understand you completely and I agree with you 100%, but you can't let closed minded people get you so upset. Unfortunately, nothing you are going to say is going to change Tharaa's uneducated opinon on the gay community. You can't let people like that upset you, it's just not worth it. Tharaa is lucky enough to not have to face the same challenges that we have, and that can result is not understanding what it's like to be gay.

I know that you didn't choose this, I know that it chose you. I know how hard it is to be put down for something you can't help. If you ever want or need to talk, please feel free to message me.

Thanks rainbow, I normally don't let it get to me, but that post just got me mad. I respect that everyone has their views, likewise I have mine but to come out with statements like that just got to me. Fair enough she doesn't believe in the gay lifestyle because of her religion/belief, if that is the case why the hell post in the rainbow section of this board, unless you have got something decent to say. She doesn't want a debate, well she should have thought about that before posting her ideas, knowing that it will make people angry.

I really used to like this site, but lately I have been disheartened with some of the people on here and find I don't want to post.

BabyDreamz · 01-26-2006, 09:29 PM

Tharaa-Maybe I'm missing something, but if you are so against homosexuality aren't you in the wrong place??