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Old 06-26-2003, 05:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Everyone

I am doing the shutdown/cleansing process. The month before I started with NPC, my cycle was 21 days. The first month on the shutdown process it was 23 days - I ovulated on day 9. This month (month 2 of the shutdown), I seem to have ovulated on CD 11. I am now on CD 31 and stopped using the NPC on CD 29 (due to miscalculation, was supposed to stop on CD 26 for 7 days). AF still hasn't started I have done two pregnancy tests (one on CD 24 (13 DPO) and one on CD 27 (16 DPO) - both negative.

I am also using Vitex 200mg per day.

Does anyone have any idea of what is going on? This can't be normal? What should I do? Wait until the 7 days without the NPC are over and start again?
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Old 06-26-2003, 10:23 AM   #2 (permalink)
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boy, your cycles are short! Do you know why? And NPC is making them longer?

I've had screwy cycles before the first few months on NPC, and I did exactly what you suggested - wait 7 days and start over.

I think a lot of people here use Vitex only until O and the NPC - you might try that. Hopefully others will have suggestions.

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Thanks for the reply.

My cycles used to be much longer (usually between 26-28 days), but then they became irregular and that is why I started with the NPC. According to the shutdown process (http://www.infertilityworkshop.com/a.../cleansing.htm), this is normal, let me quote:

"Often times one finds that with the supplementation the cycles are shorter because your body is getting progesterone to oppose the estrogen."

My main concern is the fact that I did not menstruate at all and does not seem to be pregnant either.

Did anyone else have a similar experience?

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Just an update for those who are interested.

My AF finally started on day 33!!! Longest ever, but what a relief!
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Exclamation cycles!

You seem to have the same type of cycles that I do. Last month I was taking Vitex and using NPC and my cycle was 18 days. Usually it is 28 days and this month I used only the NPC and I started today on day 34!

I didn't like the Vitex, it made my cycles too short and it made me moody/depressed. I'm sticking with my progesterone cream. It seems to work pretty well.

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I am so glad someone else has experienced something similar

I am actually also considering stopping the vitex - have not had any negative symptoms from it, but while the NPC is good for everyone, I am not so sure about the Vitex.
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I am not doing the shutdown, but I can share my experiences with NPC and Vitex so far ...

First of all, I stopped taking the Vitex as I did not like it at all. I had PMS (bloated, moody, irritated), which I usually never have, and my assumptions that it increases LH levels were confirmed 2 days ago when I had some b/w done! Argh!

I used NPC to bring on my period last month. I intended to use it for 14 days, but AF showed up already on the 9th day of using it. I am planning to use it again this month ...

I have no idea, if this helps, but I gave it a try at least
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