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Old 06-13-2008, 12:31 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Since there's been some recent activity on this thread, I thought I'd post a little update. Including the couple of pounds I lost just prior to WW, I have now lost a total of 16.5 pounds. I can hardly believe it! Two days ago I was able to shop at several stores that - just one year ago - I was sized out of! It felt so, so amazing, and it's making this hard work really feel worth it.

Kat, how do you get your necessary oils in? I know some people who just literally sip teaspoons of the stuff, but others who try to estimate it in the foods they consume. What have you found works for you?

Other than that, I'm averaging about 2 pounds of weight loss per week, consuming 27 points and exercising 30. I rarely use the bonus points or exchange activity points; this pattern seems to work for me. I have found that on average I probably consume an extra 7 to 12 points per week. But in calculating exercise that seems appropriate. Either way, it was a challenge getting used to the idea that I was not going to drop weight like I gained it (90lbs in four months - about gave my doctor a heart attack, so imagine how I felt!), but 2lbs is a very healthy rate, so I am perfectly satisfied.

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Old 06-13-2008, 01:15 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Kat, how do you get your necessary oils in? I know some people who just literally sip teaspoons of the stuff, but others who try to estimate it in the foods they consume. What have you found works for you?
On days that I don't eat fish, I'll take it by the teaspoon (I actually like it alot).

You can also drizzle it on a salad with some vinegar or lemon juice.
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Old 06-13-2008, 01:29 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Prettyinpink, when I was on WW it seemed like I was following the program to the T and losing very slowly; some weeks I would even gain a pound. But then it would come crashing off me. I think people expect everyone to lose the same amount of weight in the same amount of time, as if we were calibrated machines. This is not the case because so many factors effect daily weight loss and gain.

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Other than that, I'm averaging about 2 pounds of weight loss per week, consuming 27 points and exercising 30. I rarely use the bonus points or exchange activity points; this pattern seems to work for me. I have found that on average I probably consume an extra 7 to 12 points per week. But in calculating exercise that seems appropriate. Either way, it was a challenge getting used to the idea that I was not going to drop weight like I gained it (90lbs in four months - about gave my doctor a heart attack, so imagine how I felt!), but 2lbs is a very healthy rate, so I am perfectly satisfied.

Down, down the numbers go!
So what pointers did you follow to finally start losing the weight? You exercise 30 points daily? I also don't exchange activity points--when I do it seems like I never even worked out, so it seems pointless. WW has never worked for me in the past, but now that I am on 1000mg of Metformin ER, I am hoping for results---I would kill to lose 16 pounds!
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I did weight watchers "unofficially" once when I was on university exchange and lived with a weight watchers advisor (great roomie) I was 22 then.

It worked for me then. I didn't do the points, I just couldn't be bothered. Instead I followed their other plan, the one where you don't count the points but you do not eat certain foods. If I had to recommend a program, it would be that one.

I am now older and trying to lose weight again. However, due to different living situation I cannot follow it, thus I'm trying to do more weightlifting instead and eat healthily. I'll see where it takes me!
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I did weight watchers and did great for a few months, that was last year, then all of a sudden it stopped working, I gained all the weight back and more, this was before I was diagnosed with PCOS.
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I did weight watchers and did great for a few months, that was last year, then all of a sudden it stopped working, I gained all the weight back and more, this was before I was diagnosed with PCOS.
Why would the diagnosis have changed how your body reacted to the diet? I'm assuming you had pcos even before the diagnosis...
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I am sorry that it is not working for you. I have been doing WW for a year now and have lost 57 lbs. I find that for me, if I DO NOT eat all my allowed points a day, I lose more weight. I weigh in every Tuesday morning. I do not eat or drink anything before hand. I wear the same clothes to each weigh-in. If I would weight myself later in the day I could be up 3 lbs, so that is why weighing in at the same time is important. I wish you the best of luck!

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Exclamation Don't do Weight Watches!!!!!!

For women with PCOS, Weight Watches is a scam.

I did it for ages and was hungry all the time. The majority of us are fat because we have insulin resistance, and Weight Watches tells us to just keep cutting kilojoules until we are losing weight. But that's rubbish, because that just lowers our metabolism and if we fall off the bandwagon we gain it all back, because it hasn't addressed our actual problem of insulin resistance.

My doctor told me that most women with PCOS will ***NEVER*** keep their weight down while eating carbohydrates.

Why fight against your body?? If you drastically cut down on carbohydrates you can fix the actual problem. Read up on how insulin resistance works. Read about PCOS and Atkins. Lowing your insulin resistance can even lower testosterone, which might be enough to bring back our periods and lose the excess hair.

There are a number of site with threads about PCOS women who have seen great results with low carbs lifestyles. What more, it's FREE (unlike Weight Watches), it WORKS and it can easily become a life long change.

I spent many hundreds of dollars on Weight Watches before I realised that it just didn't work for me. My friends lost weight on it (but later gained it all back with a vengence). I couldn't do it though, no matter how hard I tried. Our body's are not designed for it, but the company doesn't want to tell you that because they want your money. If you fail, they just tell you that it's your fault for not cutting points enough, and it's rediculous. It's their fault for not recognising that PCOS women are unique.

Some places on the internet note that there are side affects of low carb diets, but these can be dealt with. And anyway, we have a medical condition with far more severe side affects if we don't follow a low carb diet.

Recent scientific studies have shown that lowering carb's do NOT increase osteporosis or Heart Disease as was so thought 10 years ago.

But we (women with PCOS) WILL get Heart Disease and Diabetes if we don't lose the weight. And we will only lose it long term by cutting carbs. It's not as hard as I initially thought it would be. And it really does make sence. We just have to eat like our ancestors did: Lots of meat, lots of eggs, lots of fish/chicken, lots of veggies (excluding really starchy ones eg. potatos & carrots). Also eat some nuts and some fruit (but limit it).

You will lose the weight without the hunger.

Also, INTENSE exercise lowers insulin resistance and you should do it 3 times a week for 30 minutes.

Weight watches only works by cutting kilojoules anyway. Instead of spending hundreds you could just buy a book on kilojoule counting. They are only $9 and do the same thing. Plus, all packaged foods in australia list their kilojoule content anyway, so you really only need the book to calculate the kilojoule value of fruits and veggies. HOWEVER: I'm not going to recommend cutting kilojoules just yet. Cut carbs first and if that doesn't work, start exercising.

Since the 1980's the western world has been told to eat a low fat diet to lose weight. Since the 1980's we have had an ever increasing obesity epidemic. We are trying to cut fat by eating more sugar, and Weight Watches only promotes that further. Look at all the crappy snacks they sell. Lamingtons?? Cookies??? WTF??? Who do they think they are helping.

Deal with your actual problem head on. Obesity is just a symptom of insulin resistance.
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For women with PCOS, Weight Watches is a scam.

My doctor told me that most women with PCOS will ***NEVER*** keep their weight down while eating carbohydrates.


Our body's are not designed for it, but the company doesn't want to tell you that because they want your money. If you fail, they just tell you that it's your fault for not cutting points enough, and it's rediculous. It's their fault for not recognising that PCOS women are unique.

1. Other then anecdotal evidence, what research have you read/done to support your statement that WW is a scam? It may not have worked for you (and others) based on your body's needs, but that certainly does not mean that it's a scam. I lost over 50 pounds with WW (and kept it off for 3 years while continuing to follow their program), but I wouldn't use that as an example to say that WW is for everyone or will work for everyone.

2. Not all women with pcos have IR or Diabetes. I've NEVER had any issues with my blood sugar, including when I was diagnosed (and was obese at that time) and when I was pregnant with twins. I believe that I'm at a higher pre-disposition for blood sugar problems because of pcos (which is why I work actively to keep my weight down by diet and exercise), but just as not all women with pcos have acne, hairloss, infertility, depression, ect, not all women with pcos are IR or have diabetes.

3. You said, "My doctor told me that most women with PCOS will ***NEVER*** keep their weight down while eating carbohydrates." What research did he present you to support this statement? This is a pretty broad, blanket statement. There are different types of carbs (simple and complex) and they'll effect blood sugar levels differently. It's also pretty difficult to not eat ANY carbs. If my doctor told me that, I'd immediately ask for research to support that statement, or stop going to that dr.
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If my doctor told me that, I'd immediately ask for research to support that statement, or stop going to that dr.
Ditto.

There's a LOT of VERY bad advice and misinformation in that post.

Insulin sensitivity is not mandatory in PCOS

Article: It's difficult to predict which PCOS cases will follow the classic patterns

In PCOS, type 2 diabetes risk may be confined to those with obesity - not all cysters

QUICK LINKS: Info on BEST DIET FOR PCOS (links to research)

QUICK LINKS: PCOS and Losing BELLY FAT

QUICK LINKS: Research Studies on PCOS and Exercise
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For women with PCOS, Weight Watches is a scam.

I did it for ages and was hungry all the time. The majority of us are fat because we have insulin resistance, and Weight Watches tells us to just keep cutting kilojoules until we are losing weight. But that's rubbish, because that just lowers our metabolism and if we fall off the bandwagon we gain it all back, because it hasn't addressed our actual problem of insulin resistance.

My doctor told me that most women with PCOS will ***NEVER*** keep their weight down while eating carbohydrates.
I beg to differ, I have PCOS and IR and Weight Watchers helped me to lose 25 pounds. If you eat nothing but carbs then yes you would have a hard time losing, but WWers incourages making smart choices for meals. Do I want to waste my points on the bag of chips or do I want to be smart and have a yogurt and a piece of fruit for less points?

I think you need a new doctor and don't believe everything you hear without doing some research of your own.
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