Yasmin vs Aviane [Generic Alesse] ??

christylh · 11-18-2004, 07:39 PM

My gynecologist just switched me to Aviane today because I've been on Yasmin for a year and though I love the spiractalone, Yasmin may be really effecting my libido [compared to years past it feels non-existant!].

Have any of you switched from Yasmin to Aviane and noticed improvements or did things get worse?

Frantic · 11-18-2004, 09:20 PM

i am still on Yasmin and so far I love it. I have only been on it for a month but it has already cleared my skin. I know that you are switching but can you tell me what improvements and what stayed the same when you were on Yasmin.

christylh · 11-22-2004, 01:34 AM

I was lucky in the sense that my skin was already clear before I started birth control. So far I feel a little bit more even keeled, but I don't think that 3 days on Aviane could get that kind of credit. I guess it will just take some time.

I sang the praises of Yasmin for the first several months I was on it because of how it helped reduce the excess hair growth, even the hair on my legs became less coarse. But I never noticed the diuretic effects it was supposed to have, in fact this past year I have retained more fluid than I ever have before. My legs are tight and sore.

The gynecologist said that Aviane had less estrogen in it, which I can obviously see the reasons why that would be helpful. I haven't been diagnosed with having too much estrogen [or testosterone for that matter] before, so maybe Yasmin was giving me waay too much.

I really hope that I can find someone who has switched between these two particular BCPs out there...

RunnerDuck · 11-22-2004, 02:01 AM

I have been on something like 9 different BCPs... and while I didn't switch from Yasmin to Alesse, these are two pills I have been on.

I liked Alesse - no moodiness, I was able to lose weight with exercise, my excess hair problem lessened... but after 3 months on it, I was still having breaktrhough bleeding. My doctot said the estrogen level probably wasn't high enough for me... I don't know. I have never really understood what makes one pill cause BTB and not another...

On Yasmin, I was moody as hell, acne was terrible, and I also had BTB. Yasmin has more estrogen than Alesse - but it also has that Spiro-derived progesterone component and I suspect that may have been what caused the bleeding for me. Spiro makes me bleed, too.

One of these days I will find the perfect BCP. Next in line is Ovcon...

I really wish I didn't have the bleeding with Alesse. It was so good for me otherwise...

christylh · 11-22-2004, 02:11 AM

I don't usually have breakthrough bleeding on any BCP thankfully. I've been on Ortho-Tricyclen, Yasmin and now Aviane so we'll see.

I'm sure you've already read this but what do you think about this chart of symptoms?.

Did you have break through bleeding before you had a baby?

RunnerDuck · 11-22-2004, 02:29 PM

Yeah I have seen the chart. It's actually also on the link in one of the stickies

http://www.wdxcyber.com/ncontr13.htm

and probably is best read in context with the other stuff in that link. Probably. I don't know. You get more information that way but then more information = more confusion so...

I don't know how much faith to put in the chart or other "pick the best BCP" guidelines. Like I said, Yasmin made me have breakthrough bleeding - and the chart says it won't. Also Alesse was GREAT for my acne and hair issues - but the sticky link says it is one of the more androgenic pills.

But I do see the Ovcon isn't under one of the pills to take if weight gain is an issue... though it is under the list of what to take if depression is an issue... so... we'll see.

I took my first pill last night. So far... so far so good but it's waaaaay too soon to tell.

I have not been on BCPs since being preg (well, until last night that is) so all of my BCP effects are based pre-preg. I listed them in Disintigration's Yasmin query post... I'll copy.

In the past... pills I have tried and side effects suffered include...

Ortho-cyclin or tricyclin- too long ago to remember, see I don't eveb recall which it was... might have tried both...

Ortho-cept - *severe* suicidal depression

Ortho- novum 7/7/7 - severe migraine (pain, nausea, loss of vision - thought I had a brain tumor!) - only on it 2 or 3 days

Desogen - suicidal depression because, duh, it's the same as ortho-cept

Mircette - b-witchy moods and breakthrough bleeds

Alesse - breaktrhough bleeds (great otherwise... lost weight, less hair...)

Demulen - killed sex drive (but maybe it wasn't the pill as it has yet to return and that was 3 years ago) and no bleeds during off week (that part freaked me out and would come back to haunt me later)

Yasmin - breakthrough bleeds, psycho moods during off week, got pregnant

Ortho-novum - weight gain, terrible acne and hair loss

Sooooooo... from the looks of it, Ovcon is similar to Ortho-novum in terms of estrogen content and progestin type, but has a lower progestin component. So... I guess we'll see what happens. I kind of want to call my doc and say ya know ortho-cyclin looks like a good bet... but he did give me 4 free packs of Ovcon so maybe I should give it a try.

Chrissy · 11-22-2004, 03:15 PM

I have also taken both of these. I liked the alesse alot. It allowed me to lose that extra fluid bc pills give and my libido increased as compared to the Yasmin. My skin worsened a bit on it though. I felt really good and balanced on this one and would try it again. I am currently on Avandia. Hope this helps!

Melindotty · 03-16-2008, 12:17 AM

I just made the switch from YAZ to Aviane.

On YAZ I lost weight, but was crazy depression/ suicidal so I'm hoping Aviane will help with that

Please let me know how the switch worked out for you!

angela84 · 05-02-2008, 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melindotty

I just made the switch from YAZ to Aviane.

On YAZ I lost weight, but was crazy depression/ suicidal so I'm hoping Aviane will help with that

Please let me know how the switch worked out for you!

Hi my name is Angela,

I'm on my second pack of Yaz, have some side effects, as depression

, feeling tired all the time

, dry skin... So my doctor told me to try Aviane, but I am afraid to switch.
The only thing I like about Yaz is that I didn't gain weight, but is driving me crazyyy.

How is Aviane working for you? Please let me know.

Thanks,
Angela.

soulfulqween · 05-02-2008, 04:14 AM

Alesse gave me a severe case of the white...ick

I'm on Zovia now it's been 4 months and I am happy with it.

lauridi · 05-02-2008, 03:34 PM

I was on Aviane for 2 years, had a break for 8 months and am back on it again. I haven't really experienced any negative side effects with it. During the 8 month break, my face broke out really bad. I have gone through almost a pack and a half since I started back on it and it has cleared up a lot! No mood swings or weight gain.

Melindotty · 05-03-2008, 11:15 AM

No bad side effects on Aviane yet, and it definatley got rid of the crazy depression side effects!

angela84 · 05-03-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melindotty

No bad side effects on Aviane yet, and it definatley got rid of the crazy depression side effects!

I just stopped taking Yaz yesterday, my doctor told me to start Aviane on the sunday after my period starts.
I am just so scared to deal with depression again, since I had postpartum depression 4 years ago, and since then have some up and downs and I was treated with pills and therapy... Didn't expect the BCP to make it worse.

Oh well, I hope Aviave works better.

Angela.

11-18-2004, 07:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
christylh Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 111 Points: 5,911.26 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,911.26 Donate	Yasmin vs Aviane [Generic Alesse] ?? My gynecologist just switched me to Aviane today because I've been on Yasmin for a year and though I love the spiractalone, Yasmin may be really effecting my libido [compared to years past it feels non-existant!]. Have any of you switched from Yasmin to Aviane and noticed improvements or did things get worse?

11-22-2004, 02:01 AM	#4 (permalink)
RunnerDuck want. babies. OUT! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the shoe! Posts: 9,987 My Mood: Points: 94,518.33 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 94,518.33 Donate	I have been on something like 9 different BCPs... and while I didn't switch from Yasmin to Alesse, these are two pills I have been on. I liked Alesse - no moodiness, I was able to lose weight with exercise, my excess hair problem lessened... but after 3 months on it, I was still having breaktrhough bleeding. My doctot said the estrogen level probably wasn't high enough for me... I don't know. I have never really understood what makes one pill cause BTB and not another... On Yasmin, I was moody as hell, acne was terrible, and I also had BTB. Yasmin has more estrogen than Alesse - but it also has that Spiro-derived progesterone component and I suspect that may have been what caused the bleeding for me. Spiro makes me bleed, too. One of these days I will find the perfect BCP. Next in line is Ovcon... I really wish I didn't have the bleeding with Alesse. It was so good for me otherwise... __________________ DS The Tadpole b. 11/16/03 My Yasmin oops/miracle To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. DDs Bat Boy and Spit Up Queen b. 3/28/08 @35w6d due to severe pre-eclampsia To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. X2 3 miscarriages, 1 multifetal reduction Baby C will be in my To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. forever "So make the best of this test and don't ask 'Why?' It's not a question but a lesson learned in time." - Green Day

11-22-2004, 02:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
RunnerDuck want. babies. OUT! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the shoe! Posts: 9,987 My Mood: Points: 94,518.33 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 94,518.33 Donate	Yeah I have seen the chart. It's actually also on the link in one of the stickies http://www.wdxcyber.com/ncontr13.htm and probably is best read in context with the other stuff in that link. Probably. I don't know. You get more information that way but then more information = more confusion so... I don't know how much faith to put in the chart or other "pick the best BCP" guidelines. Like I said, Yasmin made me have breakthrough bleeding - and the chart says it won't. Also Alesse was GREAT for my acne and hair issues - but the sticky link says it is one of the more androgenic pills. But I do see the Ovcon isn't under one of the pills to take if weight gain is an issue... though it is under the list of what to take if depression is an issue... so... we'll see. I took my first pill last night. So far... so far so good but it's waaaaay too soon to tell. I have not been on BCPs since being preg (well, until last night that is) so all of my BCP effects are based pre-preg. I listed them in Disintigration's Yasmin query post... I'll copy. In the past... pills I have tried and side effects suffered include... Ortho-cyclin or tricyclin- too long ago to remember, see I don't eveb recall which it was... might have tried both... Ortho-cept - severe suicidal depression Ortho- novum 7/7/7 - severe migraine (pain, nausea, loss of vision - thought I had a brain tumor!) - only on it 2 or 3 days Desogen - suicidal depression because, duh, it's the same as ortho-cept Mircette - b-witchy moods and breakthrough bleeds Alesse - breaktrhough bleeds (great otherwise... lost weight, less hair...) Demulen - killed sex drive (but maybe it wasn't the pill as it has yet to return and that was 3 years ago) and no bleeds during off week (that part freaked me out and would come back to haunt me later) Yasmin - breakthrough bleeds, psycho moods during off week, got pregnant Ortho-novum - weight gain, terrible acne and hair loss Sooooooo... from the looks of it, Ovcon is similar to Ortho-novum in terms of estrogen content and progestin type, but has a lower progestin component. So... I guess we'll see what happens. I kind of want to call my doc and say ya know ortho-cyclin looks like a good bet... but he did give me 4 free packs of Ovcon so maybe I should give it a try. __________________ DS The Tadpole b. 11/16/03 My Yasmin oops/miracle To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. DDs Bat Boy and Spit Up Queen b. 3/28/08 @35w6d due to severe pre-eclampsia To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. X2 3 miscarriages, 1 multifetal reduction Baby C will be in my To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. forever "So make the best of this test and don't ask 'Why?' It's not a question but a lesson learned in time." - Green Day

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Chrissy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio USA Posts: 517 Points: 4,786.00 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 4,786.00 Donate	I have also taken both of these. I liked the alesse alot. It allowed me to lose that extra fluid bc pills give and my libido increased as compared to the Yasmin. My skin worsened a bit on it though. I felt really good and balanced on this one and would try it again. I am currently on Avandia. Hope this helps! __________________ 40 DH 39 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Mother to two sweet babies 10 and 6

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Melindotty Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Moved around my whole life, but stayed in the suburbs of Philly for the last few years, now going to college in VA Posts: 34 My Mood: Points: 3,033.76 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 3,033.76 Donate	I just made the switch from YAZ to Aviane. On YAZ I lost weight, but was crazy depression/ suicidal so I'm hoping Aviane will help with that Please let me know how the switch worked out for you! __________________ 18 yr old English major My beautiful Lhasa Apso Delilah died 3/8/08- WORST moment ever. She was my baby and my best friend. Hell, she was my only friend for a while there. :-( ~RIP DELILAH: 6/20/98-3/8/08~ No significant other :-( Was taking YAZ, now on Aviane To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Frantic Positive Soul Cyster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 149 My Mood: Points: 5,016.70 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,016.70 Donate	i am still on Yasmin and so far I love it. I have only been on it for a month but it has already cleared my skin. I know that you are switching but can you tell me what improvements and what stayed the same when you were on Yasmin.

11-22-2004, 01:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
christylh Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 111 Points: 5,911.26 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,911.26 Donate	I was lucky in the sense that my skin was already clear before I started birth control. So far I feel a little bit more even keeled, but I don't think that 3 days on Aviane could get that kind of credit. I guess it will just take some time. I sang the praises of Yasmin for the first several months I was on it because of how it helped reduce the excess hair growth, even the hair on my legs became less coarse. But I never noticed the diuretic effects it was supposed to have, in fact this past year I have retained more fluid than I ever have before. My legs are tight and sore. The gynecologist said that Aviane had less estrogen in it, which I can obviously see the reasons why that would be helpful. I haven't been diagnosed with having too much estrogen [or testosterone for that matter] before, so maybe Yasmin was giving me waay too much. I really hope that I can find someone who has switched between these two particular BCPs out there...

11-22-2004, 02:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
christylh Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Huntsville, AL Posts: 111 Points: 5,911.26 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 5,911.26 Donate	I don't usually have breakthrough bleeding on any BCP thankfully. I've been on Ortho-Tricyclen, Yasmin and now Aviane so we'll see. I'm sure you've already read this but what do you think about this chart of symptoms?. Did you have break through bleeding before you had a baby?

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soulfulqween SoulfulCyster Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Where I am... Posts: 1,381 My Mood: Points: 13,083.92 Bank: 2,913.46 Total Points: 15,997.38 Donate	Alesse gave me a severe case of the white...ick I'm on Zovia now it's been 4 months and I am happy with it. __________________ Meds: Saw Palmetto Dong Quai Calendula Valerian Black Cohosh Dandelion Root Cinnamon Vitamin C Fe St John's Wort Chromium Picolinate To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. PCOS DX 6.7.04 To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. A wonderful man luvz To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. me... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. [/size]

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lauridi Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1 Points: 108.30 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 108.30 Donate	I was on Aviane for 2 years, had a break for 8 months and am back on it again. I haven't really experienced any negative side effects with it. During the 8 month break, my face broke out really bad. I have gone through almost a pack and a half since I started back on it and it has cleared up a lot! No mood swings or weight gain.

05-03-2008, 11:15 AM	#12 (permalink)
Melindotty Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Moved around my whole life, but stayed in the suburbs of Philly for the last few years, now going to college in VA Posts: 34 My Mood: Points: 3,033.76 Bank: 0.00 Total Points: 3,033.76 Donate	No bad side effects on Aviane yet, and it definatley got rid of the crazy depression side effects! __________________ 18 yr old English major My beautiful Lhasa Apso Delilah died 3/8/08- WORST moment ever. She was my baby and my best friend. Hell, she was my only friend for a while there. :-( ~RIP DELILAH: 6/20/98-3/8/08~ No significant other :-( Was taking YAZ, now on Aviane To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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