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Old 07-18-2004, 04:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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...that in the information line to enter into this portion of the message board it says that PCOS may increase the liklihood of getting hypothyroid problems and I TOTALLY disagree......I think it is the other way around. I think having problems with your thyroid can make all your hormones get kicked out of place making you have PCOS. The thyroid is a gland that not only functions with the metabolism and how we gain and lose weight but it also effects the endocrine portion of our bodies..I.E. the ovaries and hormones. A really good analogy that someone gave me about this wsa what if there was water on the floor, what is the REAL problem there.....it's not the water, it's the roof that is leaking the water! I guess this is just my 2 cents worth of how I feel about this. I was DX in '95 with PCOS....but for as long as I can remember I have alsways had problems with my temps being low and my feet and hands being cool. I feel the main cause of my PCOS was that my thyroid was out of wack......but I think doctors need to start studying this relationship a little more before handing out Medications that will do nothing for someone who is dealing with thyroid problems. Medications like Metformin and BCPS aren't going to do anything for me if the MAIN reason I am having these problems is because my thyroid is malfunctioning.

Sorry to be venting here but I have recently been studying this and it has really gotten me heated up because Dr's do not seem to be too concerned with finding out what is really causing women to have these problems. I think one of the best sayings I have read on her was that PCOS is not an ovary problem it's a endocrine problem.....and dr's are stil treating it as a OVARY problem it seems like.
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Chicken or the egg...

First of all, hypothyroidism does make a lot of people insulin resistant to some degree.

Secondly, PCOS usually comes with estrogen dominance and sustained levels of estrogen thanks to not ovulating. This is not the way it's supposed to be as estrogen is supposed to cycle up and down. Estrogen binds to thyroid hormone making it unavailable to the body. So when estrogen is sustained like this it stresses the thyroid out and it eventually can just poop out.

Also IR causes decreased conversion of T4 to T3, the active thyroid hormone.

PCOS is definitely NOT an ovarian disorder, it is a pre-diabetic condition. Studies show that 40% of women w/pcos will develop type II diabetes by age 40, and 60% by age 60, unless you treat it properly.

Metformin CAN work for you if you are IR whether or not you are hypothyroid. But you DO need treatment for hypothyroidism if you have it because otherwise no system in your body will function properly, INCLUDING your insulin metabolism.
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Old 07-27-2004, 01:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ok, here's MY story...I didn't have PCOS until AFTER my thyroid went all funky on me...actually, didn't have it until AFTER I had my son! I had thyroid issues since my teens (although it wasn't Dx until after I had my son--*$$hole doctors!) But it was after my son was born that my body just broke down on me...

So, I think that it's all dependent on the person...some people will have thyroid issues first and some will have PCOS first...

It's enough to make us go insane!
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Could depend on the type of PCOS you have.

My mom, me, and I think my 11 year old DD have PCOS that seems to be hereditary. The thyroid problem for me came much later, after I let the PCOS go without treatment for a long while and was very insulin resistant.

My daughter's thyroid is fine, but I think we will find PCOS problems as she enters puberty.

My mom was treated for thyroid problems at one point in the 1960's when it seemed to be the vogue diagnosis. Then she stopped being treated for it. So I have no idea if she really had the problem or not.

I think for those with hereditary PCOS, the thyroid is a result of it. But perhaps in others it causes the insulin resistance that leads to PCOS symptoms.

A LOT more research needs to be done.

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