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Old 02-11-2004, 12:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Are you SAD/seasonal affective disorder information.

If you find depression hits mostly in the winter, check this out.

What is SAD?

SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) is a type of winter depression which affects millions of people every winter between September and April, in particular during December, January and February. SAD is caused by a biochemical imbalance in the hypothalamus due to the shortening of daylight hours and the lack of sunlight in winter. For many people SAD is a seriously disabling illness, preventing them from functioning normally without continuous medical treatment. For others, it is a milder condition, causing discomfort, referred to as sub-syndromal SAD or winter blues. There is also a rare reverse form of SAD, known as summer SAD, where symptoms occur each summer and remit in winter.
Symptoms
a desire to oversleep and difficulty staying awake, but in some cases, disturbed sleep and early morning wakening;
feeling fatigue and an inability to carry out normal routine;
a craving for carbohydrates and sweet foods, usually resulting in weight gain;
feelings of misery, guilt and loss of self-esteem, sometimes hopelessness and despair, sometimes apathy and loss of feelings;
an irritability and desire to avoid social contact;
a tension and inability to tolerate stress;
a decreased interest in sex and physical contact
and in some sufferers, extremes of mood and short periods of hypomania (overactivity) in spring and autumn.
SAD symptoms usually reoccur regularly each winter, starting between September and November and continuing until March or April; a diagnosis can be made after 2 or more consecutive winters of symptoms. In sub-syndromal SAD, symptoms such as tiredness, lethargy, sleep and eating problems occur, but depression and anxiety are absent or mild.

SAD symptoms disappear in spring, either suddenly with a few weeks of hypomania/hyperactivity, or gradually, depending on the intensity of sunlight in the spring/early summer. In summer SAD, symptoms may be related to excessive heat rather than light and may include irritability and lethargy rather than oversleeping and overeating.

SAD may begin at any age, but the main age of onset is 18-30. It occurs throughout the northern and southern hemispheres but is rare in those living within 30 degrees of the Equator, where daylight hours are long, constant and extremely bright.

Treatments
Light therapy has been proven effective in over 80% of diagnosed cases, with exposure from 30 minutes to several hours per day to very bright light, at least 10 times the intensity of ordinary domestic lighting. Ordinary light bulbs and fittings are not strong enough. Whereas the average home or office lighting deliver an intensity of 200-500 lux, the minimum dose necessary to treat SAD is 2500 lux. Some light units deliver up to 10,000 lux, which can shorten treatment time.
Light treatment should be used daily in winter, starting in early autumn when the first symptoms appear. It consists of sitting 2-3 feet away from a specially designed light box, wearing a Light Visor, or waking up to dawn simulator. Allow the light to shine on the eyes. While getting your light treatment carry out normal duties; eating, writing, reading, etc. It is not necessary to stare at the light during the session, but keep in mind that the more photons that reach the retina, the faster the session will be.
Treatment is usually effective within 3-4 days and the effect continues provided it is used every day. Sun glasses, tinted lenses, or any device which blocks the light to the Retina of the eye, should not be worn. Daily exposure to as much natural daylight as possible can be of help.

When it comes time to shop for a light unit, be a smart consumer and shop around. Weigh the pros and cons of the different products and different companies. Product economy is one factor, but product quality and company service are even more important. All reputable companies will offer a return system if the light doesn't work for you.

Traditional antidepressant drugs such as tricyclics are not usually helpful for SAD as they may exacerbate sleepiness and lethargy. The non-sedative SSRI drugs such as paroxetine (Seroxat), sertraline(Lustral) and fluoxetine (Prozac) are effective in helping the depressive symptoms of SAD and combine well with light therapy. Other psychotropic drugs (i.e. lithium, benzodiazepines) have not proven very useful in the treatment of SAD.

Psychotherapy, counseling or any similar therapy which helps the person with SAD to relax, accept their illness and cope with its limitations can be useful.

http://www.nosad.org/
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Thanks for posting this. I've been living with SAD for 10 years, diagnosed for 4 and I think not enough people are yet aware of it and how serious it can be.
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I agree. I just, this year, figured it out. I have a chronic disease and really freaked when a major flair happened again this winter. Then, someone mentioned SAD, I researched it and a lightbulb moment happened. I went back on anti-depressants and do feel better. I'm also trying to get some extra sunshine since a lack of vitamin D contributes to it and it's the type you can only get from sunshine or special lamps.
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I have this also. It hits me hard about this time of the year. Starts late Dec or early Jan. and will go till about April or so.

It was nice today, about 46 degrees and sunny, so I went out for a nice walk and it felt great!!

Does anyone know a good place to find a lamp? I would love to have one for next year.
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I got my light from Alaskan Northern Lights (not sure of the URL), this was awhile ago, but I got a high quality, fairly afordable light from them. Where ever you purchase one, make sure it's 10,000 lumens and that it shields you from ultraviolet light: not necessary for dealing with SAD, can cause damage to your eyes and skin.
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Thanks for reminding me about the UV rays. I wouldn't have thought of that!
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Memeshow, good for you for going out on your walk. I hear that sunshine is really good for this! And, that if you wear sunscreen it won't work, which is kinda scarey. It is really cold here in KS today with high in the 20 and lots of wind. brrrr

Bethann, do you use the lamp. Does it work? I read that you need 4 hrs worth in most lamps and was wondering about how to do that, but did see some desk one. Thought about that for work but they're in the $100 -$150 range and hate to spend that without knowing if it works.

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I don't use mine much now that I live in Delaware, because I can usually get enough real sunlight. But when I lived in NY, I used it every day and it made a huge, life saving difference. Typically you start with 1/2 hour a day, and work up until you get good results (about an hour for most people.) There are some companies that allow you to try one out for a while, to see if it works, before investing in one.
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